mrnutty12

If it's what the community wants then I personally have no problem making it how you guys and gals want it.  ?
 
In my eyes what happens to the servers in terms of how everyone wants them is completely up to you (I'm bad at words xd).  I know I already said this, but that's why I like votes like this, if we made a questionable decision with changing something on the servers and people dont like it then by all means bring it to attention like this and we are more than willing to change it back to however you want it. ?

probably not gonna happen since "we're not a competitive server"

I would rather bring back the old friendly plugin and just get rid of RTD altogether.

who are you

Other: Cunt.
I like to call him that.

or if the second game being almost entirely third person bugs you (why wouldn't it), here are the demo downloads:
or go to https://demos.xenogamers.com/ and download these

pug_de_dust2_2018-10-05_17.zip
pug_de_overpass_2018-10-05_18.zip

In case anyone wants to watch it, @LeToucan streamed it (no voices though). 
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1000% yes to this, even though I've spent a lot of time working on the new plugins getting them to work together, it's clear that the wide view is that people enjoyed the old plugins better.  I fought for sticking with the original rtd in the first place, glad this is being brought to attention.

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thanks for all the tf2 and csgo peeps for coming out and playing, I had a blast and would love to do it again some day
 
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I mean, it could happen...
Probably would be a total train wreak, but it could happen.

I mean, it could happen...
Probably would be a total train wreak, but it could happen.

I mean, it could happen...
Probably would be a total train wreak, but it could happen.

It'd be funny lol please can we do one
I'd participate of course because I am indeed 100% a TF2 player ?
and @mrnutty12 we can make an exception for him because he occasionally plays TF2 so he counts but we all know he's actually a CS player.
the other scrubs can watch
it'd be hella funny c'mon we have to organize one
@Caleb956 @YeEternalTuna @TheSupremePatriot @hongkongatron @Segal @Kypari @SegFault @any other tf2 player with cs installed

I present to the court my evidence.

I don't think snipers are innately bad in fps games but I think in tf2 sniper doesn't necessarily fit in with the flow of the game...For most maps and scenarios at least

I find medics more frustrating by far. You are essentially fighting 2 people if the medic is not actively healing them after giving them overheal, and it also negates a lot of what all of the classes give because of it. The regen as well as overheal that medic brings with his medi gun unbalances teams so much if the other team doesn't have one to the point I'd rather leave than play sometimes unless I'm in a mood where I'm just moping around

I think sniper is usually fine, but the one thing that bothers me is the fucking jarate + bushwacka combo. It is so stupid. Hey lets give a class that can insta kill long range one of the easiest close range insta kills in the game. hmmmm

Sniper actually is one of the 4 (or 5) classes that takes skill

Insert obligatory rant from me on how the class is complete BS in general and needs to be nerfed into the ground.
Too tired to actually go on a long tirade or something.

Odds are they ain't in a fight when they are calling a staff over to look at something is the point (literally never tele'd into a fight in my years as staff). Also if it is that big of a concern for you, literally friendly mode then tele to have no collisions anyhow. 
Personally I find it far quicker to just goto whoever is calling something and deal with a second of unsticking instead of having to find them and float over there in noclip.

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