Kypari

His point is that there are so many staff members that play on surf that he wouldn't really provide anything that isn't already there, as it is already so heavily staffed. Much like how I was denied staff as a Discord moderator because we already had plenty. The entire point of my post, although poorly conveyed, was that Skelly is known to have a rather short fuse (see "Goodbye for now" thread and read my logs with him) and if given staff should definitely be on thin ice and/or under constant surveillance.
Just staying neutral still since I haven't really been on to talk to him, my posts only act as a warning.

Mainly because JB2 is the only server that matters right? ?
 
 
 

You can be active on just one server, it just means you'll have a harder time getting further in the ranks. Take @Sora_ for example, he's amazing at staff but he mostly plays TGH, but he's still an admin because he's good at staff.

It doesn't matter if Sora is the only strictly TGH staff that xG has. I wouldn't even agree at all that there are any staff at all that solely play on surf. Owlknight, Blueskittle or whatever other staff member that plays surf often you're thinking of plays TGH as well, they just prefer to play on other servers evidently and that's fine. TGH mostly has a staff member on and if not then they can calladmin.
Bottom line is that someone playing mostly on one server doesn't make it so they won't get staff. I don't care if that's TGH or Surf.

What? Staff comes on tgh all the time what do you mean lol, the only staff I see who barely ever comes on tgh is @Owlknight_  or @ABlueSkittle123 and even then I do see them come on tgh every once and a while and they both go on other servers all the time when they are populated like ff2, there really isn't a bunch of "surf only" staff like you all are talking about so I wouldn't say that's a problem here lol.  
 
About this, although I do agree that what he did in 2017 on the forums and stuff was pretty immature and that he shouldn't have done it, I really wouldn't say that's much like what he is now. Also, I get that you don't ever really see him nowadays since haha surf's trash nigga but people do change over time which I know from personal experience and he's just been a nice guy to talk to on the servers and doesn't really start beef with anyone anymore so I wouldn't really say that defines him anymore, plus he does enforce rules and help out on the server all the time. Another thing, he isn't "sensitive enough to get bullied off the entire game" he had just been bored of tf2 and left for a month which is understandable, he did leave that dumb comment on there though later as a dumb joke which was really immature but still once again, he has changed from what he once was then and is ready for staff again.
 
 

+1 red pandas gotta stick together
 
 
hes cool too I guess

You can be active on just one server, it just means you'll have a harder time getting further in the ranks. Take @Sora_ for example, he's amazing at staff but he mostly plays TGH, but he's still an admin because he's good at staff.

You can be active on just one server, it just means you'll have a harder time getting further in the ranks. Take @Sora_ for example, he's amazing at staff but he mostly plays TGH, but he's still an admin because he's good at staff.

Just a quick reference, we don't really have a limit for staff and he's actually been very active lately on surf https://xenogamers.com/rank/player_histories/sessions/882539
Not saying any more than that right now, will vouch later

Because of context. I don't call people faggots and neither do I call people niggers, but let me try to give my opinion on this subject. I'm also going to refer to the "n-word" as "nigger", since that is the word we're talking about and we're having a reasonable discussion where I'm not using it as an insult.
As far as I know, it's not like the word "faggot" is allowed no matter what. The word is allowed in a certain context in which you are not harassing someone. For instance, if someone were to call QueenofHeart [or any queer person] a faggot because of the fact that she is transgender, that would be punishable. However, in my opinion the meaning of the word faggot has kind of changed. I'm definitely not denying that awful people are still using it to be homophobic, however, there is a certain episode of South Park that illustrates this situation. To briefly summarize the episode, a ton of bikers start annoying the city and people eventually start calling them fags to the point where everyone just refers to them as fags. At some point people got concerned because of the apparent homophobia that someone did a TV report showing a child a picture of a gay person and a biker, asking whom of the both they think is a "fag". The child pointed to the biker and completely ignored the actually gay person. In other words, in this and in many other instances the word "faggot" is not being used in a homophobic context. If someone on a tf2 server is like "shut up, faggot", in 95% of the cases he doesnt use the term "faggot" to insult gay people, but instead to insult an annoying person.
Does that make it better? Kind of, I think. While I'd agree that nobody should say it, people always will and I don't think we, as a gaming community, have the power to stop people from doing that. Our regular players, yes, probably, but literally anyone who ever joins the servers? I don't think so.
People have already started to describe generally annoying people as "faggots", way before this community was even established, I believe.
However, the meaning of the term "nigger" has not changed. People still mostly use it to be intentionally racist.  There is basically no context where it would make sense to call someone a "nigger" simply because they are annoying. People haven't started doing that and still aren't.
Again, I'm not condoning the usage of either of these words, I'm just trying to explain why there is a difference in my opinion. Not to mention the argument @Elcark made last time, that we'd have to basically start banning everything from here:
List of disability-related terms with negative connotations - Wikipedia
EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG If people intentionally use the word "faggot" to discriminate against gay people, then that should be a no go, but using it in a relatively "harmless" context which doesn't relate to discriminating against gay people is something different.
Also, you should watch the episode of south park I was talking about if you have time, it's called "The F-Word".

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just don't be gay plain and simple.

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easy -1. this retard ass little bitch motherfucker doesn't come around for any of the 10 mans we have, he can't even use the excuse of not having csgo that bitch is free to play aka it got the same furry update tf2 did

3 DMs I'm game

Totally understand.
 
Well if the clean version is back this can probably be closed and discussed in higherup chat @Kypari.  Can't say I'm too surprised it happened though.. not mad, just disappointed.

It was added back to rotation as a meme for some questionable reason without my knowledge. The clean version is back on rotation now but that doesn't mean that the issue should have happened in the first place. I'm genuinely annoyed about this

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Im glad the dumbass "hurr you have to be mod first or its unfair to mods now durr" norm has seemingly changed and people seem more interested in competence and experience rather than "fairness"
+1

Get the fuck back here buddy +1 for sandmin

My new years resolution is to be a whiny PC-crazed snowflake imbecile who will be horrifically offended by absoulutely everything @Kypari says or writes, and also be sure to point out that he's doing the same thing he did last year! ?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Jk, my resolution is actually to try and be more social with people in general and stuffs ?

Good luck friend ?

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