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Division:

Team Fortress 2

In-Game Name:

Volkufspim ☭

Offender's Identity:

STEAM_0:1:71275603

Rules Broken:

Trolling, Child Pornography Sprays, Possible Hacking

Ban Type:

Server Ban

Evidence:

Volkufspim is a mainly a trade gaming history player and has been known for trolling and arguing with staff so I'm gonna start this ban request thread to have him both permed and ip banned since everything he has done seems to add up to it by now in my opinion and it is obvious that he will make alts so I'm gonna try and start a discussion about it here. From what I have seen so far is that he is an annoyance to staff with how he always bends the rules to troll and annoy others by trying to abuse the votemenu and other stuff. I'm also going to add how I think he should have been permed from his spray itself since it is "loli" porn which is basically just child pornography and he was banned for a month for it but it should have been a perm, I would show proof but I'm not gonna put this on the forums. Now about the hacking, ok so basically a month or two ago a player comes onto tgh as this is him STEAM_0:1:219964743, he comes there with 20 hours in the game and it is instantly obvious that he his hacking so he was permed pretty fast but what caught my eye was that this account happened to only have one friend and you would never believe who it was, that's right it was volku.
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(Sorry for shitty quality btw I did it with my phone) Anyway I find it pretty suspicious that this new hacking account that was obviously an alt happened to come onto the server that volk is always on and only have him friended. Later volk was questioned about him he tried to deny ever knowing or having him friended. Afterwards he tried to go on that the person just randomly friended him when he was told that there was proof changing his story which is already suspicious, not to mention that it seems unlikely that he would just accept some guy with 20 hours who's obviously hacking and unfriend him later as if to try and hide the evidence. Also it seems pretty strange that "whoever" owned this alt account just stopped using it right after it was banned off of xg as if it was just meant for there. So now I'm just hoping that this is enough plus what the community has to say to finally get rid of him and stop him from creating another alt to just come right back.

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+1 Should have been a perm for child porn in the first place. I've seen it, @Sesh @Vexx have also seen it. Not to mention how he would continuously persist on how child porn was OK despite us telling him to drop the subject. Toxic player who doesn't deserve to be able to play on the servers, especially considering that they're meant to be PG13. Should definitely be permed in my opinion since child porn is illegal.

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Do you have proof that he was hacking? (Demo of it)

 

Loli porn is not child porn, it is more akin to a weird anime porn fetish, but not child porn. Porn sprays are not something that is perm banned for, and not even banned for 1 month, they are banned for a day if that and asked to change/not use on the server (increasing amount the more times after as long as they were given a warning and told about it first)

 

 

I highlighted the important parts, and I would quote them from forums instead but the old generic all access easy to read admin handbook post by @serbiansnaga doesn't exist anymore. Porn sprays were a warning and a removal of spray, kick, banned for a few hours - 1 day, and then 1 week, and then 1 month. Not instantly given a 1 month ban.

 

This is my 2 cents as an old M/A/DL who has been around since the early days. Y'all need to chill the fuck out.

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Are you implying that we need to know the difference between what can be deemed drawn cp and lola pron?

But in regards to the demo, me and @ThunderLimes followed the "had enough yet" account for 20 minutes after I got a complaint of walling/suspicious activity from @Matteomax and we came up with a 20 minute demo of him afk'ing for quite a while but, the last few moments of the demo thunder noclips into the enemy spawn and auto locks onto him for a few times. It only happens around 3 to 4 times, but quite frankly its very obvious.

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The aimbot ban is fine, you have a demo and more than 1 admin to back it up. The problem here is there was a 1 month ban with no previous ban record for a pornography spray, and asking for him to be banned based on that loli spray as the only legitimately presented proof, there is no proof presented yet that this is infact the same person, (demo with him on voice, same voice etc.)

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The unfortunate thing is, there is really no way to connect the two accounts, other than the fact that Volkufspim had the account added at one point. Their IP's do not match, so that is out of the question. I don't think there is going to be any evidence that validates that account being Volkuf's alternate account.

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The alt account has 23 hours in tf2, no years of service badge, and is only friends with volk.

 

There isn't a video clip of him saying something in voice chat, but it could not be anymore obvious.

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Even if you say: "He was obviously hacking.", you still should provide a demo for the hacking accusation. It's good practice; along with Shining's ban protest, having one ready is common sense.

 

Chrono is right on the dot. Warn him for the spray, if he sprays again, ban him for a day (Note: This is disregarding the whole hacking accusation).

Also, I feel as if it's a bit wrong to ban him for being a "lolicon". While I don't agree with it myself, if that person isn't putting out illegal content on our servers; then what harm is he doing?

It's not like the whole Xerxes situation where he actually put illegal images in the TeamSpeak. Cartoon drawings is an extreme grey area on the internet.

 

I could bring up another situation, but most of xG's TF2 population would get beyond triggered.

 

Y'all need to chill the frick out.

 

This.

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loli is illegal in most states in the u.s and so that could get our clan in a lot of trouble :emoji_thinking:

 

Just an FYI, someone spraying a loli spray on our servers would in no possible way get us in trouble as a community. I'm sure Rhodo knows more about it than me, but I can't think of any legal way they could possibly punish us for something like that, especially since TF2 itself doesn't take action against it.

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I'm just gonna add that if most of the United states which is where xg is located considers lolicon to be child pornography then why shouldn't we consider it that too since it is almost the same thing and deserves the same punishment.

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Do you have proof that he was hacking? (Demo of it)

 

Loli porn is not child porn, it is more akin to a weird anime porn fetish, but not child porn. Porn sprays are not something that is perm banned for, and not even banned for 1 month, they are banned for a day if that and asked to change/not use on the server (increasing amount the more times after as long as they were given a warning and told about it first)

 

 

I highlighted the important parts, and I would quote them from forums instead but the old generic all access easy to read admin handbook post by @serbiansnaga doesn't exist anymore. Porn sprays were a warning and a removal of spray, kick, banned for a few hours - 1 day, and then 1 week, and then 1 month. Not instantly given a 1 month ban.

 

This is my 2 cents as an old M/A/DL who has been around since the early days. Y'all need to chill the fuck out.

 

Admin Handbook | Xeno Gamers This old thing?

 

Also, continuing off of what Chrono said, regardless of what constitutes "child pornography", if it depicts any sort of graphic content (nudity, gore, anything not PG13) then it should not be permitted. With that said, Staff should not be making "exceptions" to this rule in regards to ban time based on their own personal beliefs/opinions.Simply put, if it isn't PG13, tell them to change it. End of story.

 

As for the ban time, I agree 100% with Chrono; the user should not have been outright banned for 1 month, especially provided that the user does not have any bans prior.

 

Literally all I want to clear up in this thread, y'all can discuss the hacking aspects of it, but by no means should anyone be issuing extended ban times based on their own beliefs/opinions.

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Imma keep it neutral for now because while the lolicon shit is awful (and I don't care what you say it is porn and there should be no exceptions of any kind) there is no demo of him hacking or as @Vexx said no link to the accounts because of IP's, I feel a one month ban would be appropriate for now or until there is for sure evidence of him hacking.

 

Now allow me to say what I believe about this lolicon shit. If you actually watch and wank yer cock to it, you are a disgusting human being, but the whole lolicon tag thing (I'm pretty sure was a joke in the first place) shouldn't be removed. It exists for the pure joke of "haha I watch child anime pornography" and thats fine. But me as a person believes that loli porn is infact child pornography. If she is given the age under 18 no matter what shape or form and in any sexual position is still child porn.

 

Now I know that some people disagree with me and that is fine. You are entitled to your own opinion as I am entitled to my own. If you want to yell at me please PM me. I and many others don't want this thread to become a shitstorm.

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I'm just posting on here with a +1.

 

The account is incredibly suspicious, and has already been abandoned since after the ban on July 1st. Volk even removed it afterwards, if that isn't suspicious enough.

 

Steam Community :: had enough yet

 

BUT, aside from that, trying to show over-the-top disgusting CP to everyone on a server is just wrong, defending it is even worse.

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