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I'm glad we are in a mature clan. -Closed

Don't turn this thread into just pointless insults, either contribute with an argument or don't post anything at all.

Kid. I've played fucking highlander/competitive tf2. I know what it's like to play without crits and I feel it is inferior. I'm not on xG servers to play actual tf2 I'm on xG servers to fuck around, even on jb. I think crits need to stay because the random luck aspect is fun. And because competitive tf2 is great and I love it, and screw around tf2 is also great and I love it. We don't need to combine the two, which is what it sounds like you are trying to do. xG servers are for fun above all else. We frankly do not need Competitive settings. Crits should stay. Keep competition and fun separate.

It was only a matter of time until you showed up :P

I miss duckii jr and tarin. they were such a cute couple.

i smell jealousy of my beauty and grace

Then don't brag about how "everyone" wants to date you

Okay I've been making it known a lot recently that I utterly hate random crits. Not just here on any server I play on in TF2. Why? Because they're so common there's no point in calling them random for one, but that's besides the point. Random crits just brings the game down. Wow you're about to get engaged with someone in a melee battle, the ultimate test of skill? No you're not you got a hit or two but they just crit your sorry ass and you are dead for absolutely no reason besides a hit and luck. That is utter crap. Seriously. It makes every encounter in JB so stupidly predictable. Is there a melee battle? Prepare for a random crit. Is someone getting swarmed and they only let one person get in close enough to get hit by melee? That one hit just cost them the life and they have to sit out for X amount of minutes. "But SyrJirk, stop crying. Just shut up and enjoy the game." - Shitload of people on Jailbreak. HEY FUCKWITS. Maybe my idea of fun is a game that doesn't reward mediocrity and luck over skill and planning. When someone is winning a fight, they should STAY WINNING if they're doing something right. Not auto-lose because their opponent got the upper hand. Sure not every scenario is a loser-gets-random-crit-thus-screwing-over-the-winner scenario, I get that. But often times it IS that way. Often times the crits are just stupid and what could have been a fun engagement turns into sit-the-fuck-down-and-eat-this-crit-pan-simulator. "SyrJirk why are you so salty?" - Mod on JB, I'm salty 1. Because crits are STUPID. 2. Because the JB crowd IS STUPID. I literally got yelled at today for stating my goddamn opinion and why I thought crits were dumb. Meanwhile they tell me to shut up and have fun? For reasons stated above, NO YOU ASSHATS. I will not. The point of these forums, this website, and clan are to gather us like-minded assholes together and create a fun, interactive community of gaming within our respective divisions. Well I'm trying to get a step in that direction by eliminating a completely unnecessary pain-in-the-ass and the people within this clan and that frequent the server are trying to tell me to shut up. You're stupid as hell. Yeah maybe this won't be taken and a change won't be implemented, I have as much of a right to state my goddamn opinion as you fuckers have the right to conga and spam chat at squeakers and blue team members with retarded-ass twelve year old spam. The difference is I have a good idea of what the hell I'm actually talking about and who I'm talking to. "SyrJirk, why are you sexy?" - Me, I don't know probably because I have a red corvette to compensate for my tiny dick size. Take this any way you want, but I'm tired of the fucking 12 year old hivemind taking over in JB and on xG in general. Especially from the goddamn STAFF. Act like you deserve the position you were given, don't be a dick about it.

what have I started? lol :LOL:

there's been like 3 different threads, holy shit.

"dont call me a kid" compared us to kids (squeakers). 10/10 and how is calling someone a kid rude? is being young a negative thing? lel and you obviously give way more of a fuck than i do. i'm not playing tf2 for glory or honor it's just for fun. i dont really care about fairness when i'm having fun. what world do you live in that this is some test of skill and honor? have you seen the people that play jailbreak? it's not the top of the tf2 skill ladder, getting fair kills isnt that impressive here. so why not embrace the random crit and laugh when one gets you? public opinion is clearly that crits should stay, you continually figthing them is only making things less fun for YOU, because the vast majority of people on tf2 are not irritated by random crits.

they keep saying the same stuff because we genuinely enjoy random crits, and that "same stuff" is just another way of saying our reasoning for keeping random crits. we like them and want them to remain a part of the game. an opinion that goes against yours is equally as valid as yours. there are some people who just don't want crits to be removed. I am one of those people. you can't claim we are wrong just because you chose to articulate an argument and we didn't. we don't want crits too be removed, we have given our reasons why here and in the previous thread. we disagree with you, we think crits should stay in the game, and you don't have a very good chance. the tf2 division writ large has spoken, and we overwhelmingly support random crits and want them to remain active in game on all xG tf2 servers..

crits are funny and happen to both teams equally. if you get killed by a crit just laugh it off and try again. somebody as into competitive, skill based play (On a jailbreak server #sotough) as you should know crits are luck and not skill based. if you get killed by one so what? that doesnt mean the other person is better than you they just got lucky, so gg and try again next time. i'm starting to think you're just upset because you thought more people would want crits removed, but they obviously don't. crits keep things fresh and interesting you are not going to be able to hold back every rebellion that's the point of jailbreak. if you get this upset by dying in a gamemode made for you to die sometimes maybe you should go play something you actually enjoy? because it doesnt sound like you're having any fun.

Umm not when you gotta sit and wait forever. I dont laugh when I get randomly crit. So idk about your sense of humor but Im just annoyed when I die. Because now I have to wait around. its not like your tgh where you get that respawn, you gotta wait for the round to be over and its boring.

we've been over this

Thank you so much

Here's a solution! Go to a no crit server and don't whine anymore :P

Sounds like you would really hate ammo drops.

-1

Shut up and enjoy the game.

COD fanbase, all of which evidently have slept with/did my mom.

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Member's Name: xG:A Skeletor Member's Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:60884608 Information: My name is DasMowski and this member has broken a rule. First thing, this is minor but the guy stuck in armory which you said was "glitched" could have been assisted OR slayed for exploit if the glitching was intentional. The real meat and potatoes (the main thing) wrong was that Skeletor (John Madden, Origins) told a red or a "T" if you want to call it, that he already knows how to play First/Last reaction after the prisoner asked how to play. Ultimately Skeletor did not comply with a red's request. As evidence, I have this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQW7t92HI8. The guy who filmed it told me to make this request because he was afraid to. This was complained to @Redheards as well. I understand this is a kind of minor thing, but the rules were broken but one of xG's own. This seems to get repetitive with this member being complained about and I feel like i should bring this to xG's attention because I feel like nothing is being done about all the things he has done. I apologize for posting something minor like this, but these things with @John_Madden need to simmer down. Thank you for your time and I would like to see your responses. told

Member's Name: [xG:A] Vector Member's Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:40865099 Information: Vector's been disrespecting players and giving permanent bans out unfairly to players even if they are slightly annoying. I'd like this thread to stay open to see what the TF Division thinks about him doing all this. @Vector Maymalay's Image Cache: Abuse - Imgur In the pictures you'll notice bans being given out for "autism" one being "meow" another just being "0" and another saying "10080 nacho man shut the flying fuck up" I know for a fact there is a mute button which doesn't require you to permanently ban someone just for talking, There is also mute options for the "autistic" bans so they can't talk on mic. In my opinion he's giving unfair bans out so he shows he has power over everyone else. ANOTHER one I noticed in this shoutbox was his offensive comment towards me in the shoutbox, the image "Vector #1.jpg" has that info inside. Aren't admins supposed to be mature? Not disrespecting players because of an argument two people had which wasn't supposed to be taken seriously?

He doesn't keep the server alive on his own. Also liking forge isn't an xG rule (obviously), but the key is how you handle your views towards other people. Coming right out and telling someone to kill themselves because "no one likes them" is not mature and not acceptable.

wow you guys are so sad literally just buy your credits you cheap fucking smuts

Can we figure out why hub makes me crash? I'm not sure if @Moosty still crashes sometimes when he joins. But now I cant play any of our servers with hub :/ @Nomulous

the votes dont lie, if you want to be princess have people like you, and be the prettiest. bragging about how rich you are doesnt help c:

I have a conclusion! Princesses are royal and therefore have wealth. So I have come to the conclusion the richest person is the true princess. That would be me ;)

Can i be the prince :3 Moostea is best pretty princess ever

Where's your boyfriend then.

people just can't handle my sultry princess voice and the votes thus far reflect that.

that's not what the people say c:

everyone knows I'm the prettiest. :dummy-girl:

you won't get the support because i'm the true princess and muzzle would bring that duo down by being not pretty.

even when im dead moosty will still be pretty .3.

moosty is pretty princess .3.

Moosty 4 shore

Im the queen doh, #Ballin #waytoocashmoney

#itsinthetf2divdiscussion #heclearlysaid"notjusthereonallservers"intheOP #defendyourreasoningortryagain

Nice to see you around the servers again! Hope you make it. +1

Alright I've talked to @Nomulous and he has promised to not do it again. ~ Closed

This makes no fuckking sense. I could play jb for 2 minutes and when I die in the first minute I would be annoyed. Im not annoyed cause I sit and play jb for a long time. You make no fuckking sense. Go back to saxton cause your the "Queen of Saxton" jesus christ smh

The thing is, random crits are neither funny, nor important. Any good rebeller can get inside armory. I've seen small swarms take down the entirety of the blue team with or without random crits. You know vents that go to armory are there for a reason. Tricks and stuff on the map are there for a reason. Any rebellion can potentially be out of control with or without random crits. And a good team of blues or even a good warden can shut down any rebellion if they're smart enough, and when that happens crits don't even come into play. So let's see, half the time crits are pointless, and the other half they're still pointless. 1. Yes because this thread is already filled with 12 year olds defending the random crits with their -1. Which is also stupid because it adds nothing to the discussion. You know, I really like Kendrick's idea because he's inputting an idea with sentences and complete thoughts that are thought out and mean something. I'm pissed off because I'm trying to make a change which could be positive for everyone. People like me who prefer competitive, skill based play and results, and for the casual players as well, but so far I've got a bunch of stupid -1's and some shitposts that are bad attempts at witty, snarky comments because they're just stupid. At least Kendrick disagrees with a goddamn thoughtful post, it is not just a -1 from random assholes, most of which I literally don't know because I have seen none of them on JB before if at all. 2. The staff is fucking retarded sometimes. The only ones I really like are Kbrazz and Sparkedeel. A lot of the people here are so threatened by goddamn words on the INTERWEBZ that they can't use their brains for a few moments and think about what I'm saying and say something meaningful. I'd be more than happy to talk to you guys about it if you have dissenting opinions but no one is talking except for the shitposts which do nothing except basically say "Nuh uh SyrJirk. RANDOM CRITS ARE IN THE GAME THEREFOR THEY ARE GOOD." That says nothing except that you play TF2 sometimes and know what a random crit is. If you don't like my idea, fine, explain why. Defend crits in a good way. Because right now these stupid posts are more than enough reason in my mind to remove them when mentioning them causes the xG community to react in such an immature way. I don't get it, I've been playing on TF2 JB for a good long while now and I legitimately like the community, I want to make it better. I want to help but I make a single post about something I really dislike, and why it's shitty and yeah I call out some of the areas where I got a lot of shit from for no good reason other than stating my opinion.

That isn't bias or douche or disrespectful to me and yet you tell me not to disrespect staff or be a docuhe. You are a masterpiece of hypocrisy. Also it doesn't make it interesting it turns an encounter into a gamble of "Will I be robbed of a possible victory?" You know I probably feel the shittiness of random crits because I main spy and therefor the only way I can do any effective work is by using skill and trying to trick my opponents during battle but it's impossible for a spy to do so when the first hit he takes can very well be his last and it often is. If you play spy on JB you'll probably hate the crits as much as I do too. But guess what it doesn't just affect spy. I've played every class and none of them NEED random crits. It doesn't make the game more interesting it makes it redundant because it completely demolishes the point of becoming good at the game. It's nothing but a free win which shouldn't be the case. I could just as easily call all of you selfish. The game without crits is the way you play the game 95% of the time. Why are you so fixated on them? It's unfair any way you look at it. Just because anyone can get a crit just as randomly as someone else doesn't mean it is fair or that is isn't stupid or that it is interesting. It just makes it stupid all-around. It doesn't negatively impact anyone. Anyone who is good will still be good anyone who is bad will still be bad there's just no get out of jail freecard (No pun intended) anymore. Like there shouldn't be. Half the fun in JB in CSS was planning with your fellow T's a rebellion, who to attack first and when you were going to attack and the guards had to rely on skill and not sucking if they wanted to stop rebellions. It's not taking away anything and it's not turning TF2 into C:SS if that's what you're thinking. It's making it fair and it's making it better. It is removing the 5% of the time where the game just shites on you. Douche: Check. Disrespect: Check. The IRONY. Yet you all act like the squeakers you complain about. That is such a broadly wrong statement it literally made me laugh out loud. How would you know? Clearly you've never played without the crits and yeah I dislike them and yeah emphasis on the I because I'm not the only one. Kitty and Kendrick both have openly stated they don't like crits either. It wouldn't kill us to try to take off crits for like a week maybe two and look at the difference.

@EVERYFUCKINGTRADEKIDTHATSCONCERNED THIS SHIT IS FOR JB YOU GUYS NEVER PLAY JB SO WHY DOES THIS CONCERN YOU. MAKES NO GOD DAMN SENSE THAT YOU ALL COME IN HERE AND ARE SO DEFENSIVE ABOUT A SUBJECT THAT IS ABOUT A SERVER THAT DOESNT CONCERN YOU CAUSE YOU NEVER PLAY IT

@kbraszzz close plz bby. this thread be hurting feels up in here.

muzzle is just mad he isn't pretty