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Mona pizza or riot

I honestly have mixed thoughts on this. Let's get it out there, I don't like Vector. I honestly don't. I did at first, and I'm not denying that you helped me alot while I've been in xG, but you've been cocky, confrontational, and crossed the line with what you say to people on the servers, and you've done it alot. You we're staff before, and as long as I have a vote in the matter I'll vote against you regaining powers, unless there is a very, Let me emphasize very, drastic change in how you act on the servers. As far as playing on the servers, I do feel that even if you didn't agree with the ban, you've had plenty of time to think about it, and aren't going to login and instantly act like an ass. People are going to disagree, but I'll +1 for an unban. You're stubborn, but you're an adult. You know you need to change how you act even if you disagree with it. My only concern is that I won't be there to see how you act until my PC is done, and staff that still hold a grudge might overly nitpick or even abuse. You getting unbanned won't be popular but you're right about people threatening to leave if you're unbanned being stupid. People had problems with you as staff, but you won't be staff. So to everyone in the tf2 div, if he's unbanned give him a chance to prove himself, he's been gone for a while, and deserves this ONE chance. If he's an adult about this we won't have any trouble. I've rambled on long enough, waiting to hear from the other DMs and DLs.

It's up to you to decide if i have or not. I guess i'll be less hostile but that doesn't mean i'm not gonna be firm and straight forward with someone and not sugar what is wrong.

Sorry guys. I consulted with Nom on the matter and we spoke with Rhodo. The CLs went back on their decision and I have yet to see an improvement on behavior on the forums from him, so he won't be unbanned. I don't care if he knows the rules or if he even helped to make some of them. That doesn't exempt him from them or allow for behavior like this. You can say I have a grudge, or that I'm "butthurt" or whatever you want. I honestly don't care and wasn't thinking about this until Nom talked about shaping up the Tf2 division and making it more appetizing and less stressful for new and current people. One of the main reasons people told me they avoided the servers like the plague were because of specific people that were playing on them. Trust me, Vector isn't the only one and some more may be leaving as well, that is if they try to cause more problems than they already have. Suggestion: Maybe he should consider not tearing everyone a new one whenever they disagree with him or get a rule wrong. Not everyone is intentionally trying to cause problems and when you go overboard and humiliate them in front of everyone (instead of being adaptive to each situation), it kind of leaves a mark on them and dissuades them from joining the servers again (i.e. I've noticed this with every young kid ever on our servers). Maybe talk to me in a few months if you have improved your behavior. Try to actually act civil like the adult you are, and it might actually happen! Have a good night everyone! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also no, a mona pizza will not get you out of this. The highest authority has set the ban. Maybe this time we can actually fix the root of the problem, rather than cover it up or make it into a joke. Edit: And yes, I will actually consider unbanning you if you do change your attitude around. Not saying you have to like everyone, but don't be flat out horrible to everyone.

If you want to get unbanned so badly, and want to "support" the clan.... why not just donate $$$ and get unbanned or Mona Pizza it up like Egossi :)

"I'm not gonna lie and say i'm sorry for what i did/said because i'm not a chicken fudge and i won't tell you what you want to hear. I still to this day think i "din do nuffin" but that's up to you to decide." He straight up told us he won't change. Just throwing that out there.

"be a lil bitch cause you hate him" That's exactly why. I said I'll just get bm'd to hell and that's exactly what happened. Even when I don't try to start shit, everyone else does. smh

I'd honestly +1 this if I was a member. Honestly, like Nu_13 said, Vector still shows that he cares about the TF2 division. Regardless of his put downs, he still tries to get the division to see the light on most things. Especially when it's really big issues that occur. Biggest example would be the whole "suicide threats" debacle. Good luck, Vector. You're the hero we need.

guys, i think you should let vector be unbanned. I know that i am not here as long as many people here, but i can see that vector does care about xg. Playing a game is something everyone should have a right to. Many people here should learn how to forgive, but asking that is like asking me to talk. (ha ha) Besides, he doesn't have to play on the same severs as you guys, he can go on other servers on play there, not bothering any of the tf2 members. And on that note, (as you know me by now) i shall leave here with a thought. The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.

I can already tell this is gonna end in a nice polite manner with no shit posting, arguments, insults, crying, and everyone being happy. good luck.

Division: Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name: Cr1TiKaL Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:62700847 Position: Moderator Time Active: 3 years Age: 16 Experience: I was a tf2 mod before and I did my job regularly on a daily basis. Information: I want to rejoin the staff as a mod for the TF2 division since I have retained my interest in playing TF2 once again. I know how to be a mod for TF2 and I have experience in the field. I moderated on all of our TF2 servers during my time as mod and did my job efficiently. I plan on staying as mod if I do get it unlike last time and how I stepped down because of loss of interest in playing TF2. Hopefully I get accepted, thanks guys!

Division: Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name: Egossi Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:485977076+ Banned: Yes Previously in xG: Yes Active on Teamspeak: Yes Time Active: 3 Years Age: 16 Further Information: I love this clan and I wanna be a part of it. I hope everyone can agree on the fact that past is past and not hold gurdges on me. I can't really blame you if you do, so I'm actually ok with the -1's (for realsies this time). Anyway pretty much most of the people in the tf2 div knows me for my Mona Pizza challange and it seems like a lot less people hate me than

Division: Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name: Tom Brady Steam ID: It's on bans list, forums, and i have 100 friends in xg so u can find it. Information: I wanna be unbanned. it's obvious regardless if i'm in tf2 or not, shit will continue to happen. I kinda wanna play on servers again to give me a reason to play tf2. I'm not gonna lie and say i'm sorry for what i did/said because i'm not a chicken shit and i won't tell you what you want to hear. I still to this day think i "din do nuffin" but that's up to you to decide. This is a serious ban protest and should be treated as such. Also if i see another child say something along the lines of "if vector gets unbanned i'm leaving xG" i'm gonna scream. It's obvious you don't care about xg if you act in such a immature mannor. Also i don't want to see any more of instances like gwoash's (create a fake account, join xg, act as a different player to have another opinion on the forums"). I still care about xG believe it or not and i want it thrive. Regardless of who is in xg is irrelevant because i actually like the servers. go crazy on this ban protest. @Chrono

uh? when was the last time i chewed someone out for not knowing the rules? if you're talking about the suicide thread, i was polite to people and where have i been rude for no sharing the same opinion as me lately? This isn't fair, the fact there are people who are supporting my unban from higher ups (with some others disagree). You didn't see an improvement on the suicide thread? you didn't see the politeness of the thread i made when kart YOUR MODERATOR cried to other members to defend my self? No, you are infact holding a grudge and only wish to see the negatives of a person's personality which is a problem with xG. I haven't even done anything wrong in past months. Absolute embarrassment.

I don't know what xG would be like if Vector was never here. Not gonna lie. When I first joined, Vector was one of the main dudes I went to with questions and concerns. He was one of the biggest supporters of me initially getting Mod and eventually Admin that I can recollect. He stood up for me when I was going through the ranks and actually gave a shit about me. I consider Vector a friend. I've never had any issues with Vector on a personal level. There are very few times we have ever actually disagreed about anything, and when we did disagree about something, we were quick to bump heads and resolve our issues, and get right back to work on whatever we were working on. Vector was always one to handle things a bit more brash than others, but he never slacked in his duties and always made sure rules were being enforced. It wasn't until I became a DM that I even really ever had any sway over what Vector was doing in our clan, and when it happened, I was bombarded by an overwhelming rush of complaints about how he handled things. Perhaps it was just my new responsibilities that meant I'd eventually have to deal with the issue, or maybe it just came with the job, but the inevitable fallout of Vector being banned happened, and I am still very mixed on that decision. But here we are now. Vector is here, protesting the ban, showing us all that he still very much cares about this clan. The very clan that cast him out, told him that he was unwanted, that he was a jerk and a butt...he still cares about this clan. He still wants to be apart of this community, even after everything that has happened. I can't say I'd feel very much like sticking around a clan that did that to me, even if I was or was not in the wrong. The moment something like that happened, I would have been out of that clan in a heartbeat and never turned back. It takes a hell of a lot of drive to stick around a place like that, especially if a majority of the members made it perfectly clear that you were not welcome. Well, I say "Fuck it" to all of that nonsense and will give my +1 to the unban. I'm not advocating a reinstatement of admin privileges or an immediate addition to the moderation team or anything, but if Vector can humble himself enough to say "I fucked up and want to make amends." and still show that he actually gives a damn about our community, I say we give him the benefit of the doubt and welcome him back. I can't speak for everyone, and I know that a lot of those who have already posted in this thread have made it evidently clear that you dislike Vector, but me....I'm a forgive and forget kind of guy. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me, you know? Just my two cents. tl:dr I +1 the unban.

years? what? are you serious? i haven't been warned about jack shit since i started playing in tf2. Are you CLs actually straight up lying now?

+1 If anyone does an awesome job at controlling rule breakers it's this guy. Now, yes he can be a huge asshole, but we all have to deal with anal now and then. From my view, Vector can be a great guy, and will stick up for others, as long as you're not flashing your furry-filled-profile at everyone, or your "magic friendship" around all willy nilly. In the end, Vector was and can still be a great asset to the xG community.

+1 He really has changed and honestly I think he deserves to be a member again. A: 8:10 M: 8/10

Then why -1 and be a lil bitch cause you hate him? just be a man and say what you have to. +1 if it matters this kid sticks around after being forum banned for stupid fuckin reasons and server banned for same thing.

I did see a change in Egossi's behaviour. I'll stay neutral on this for now, but Egossi sure has gotten a hell of a lot better.

I just sense this will get bad. Just going to tag higherups @Ohstopyou @Rejects @metalslug53 @Moosty

FYI don't lose your shit people. I swear to god.

+1 nice, active and actually knows his shit. A: lets say 6.5, since the point where he was unbanned he played daily and very much. M: I personally say 10, of course you know him as "a different person" but he has changed and is pretty mature now.

Offender is banned for a week. -Closed

Division: Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name: atticus Offender's Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:23934471 Rules Broken: Racism and verbal abuse Evidence: This user has used the n word multiple times and uses it to verbally assault people. @kbraszzz @Rejects @Dethman @Ohstopyou

I think private gun mettle servers are silly and pointless as they do not work for completing contracts objectives =/

+1

no

Good riddance. I'm surprise you were not KICKED out of xG as soon as this happened.

-1 Big smelly turds stay out of my living room.

Division: Teamspeak Staff Name: Cristo Staff's Steam ID: N/A Evidence: Poked him by accident and he doesn't say anything and bans me pls perm and remove admin powers in teamspeak

i will log in a sec and check it out, i might be derping up but i will probably recognize your name on ts with others names. @Rhododendron @Nomulous How many vouches are required for teamspeak applications

more than two months pls close @Rejects or @metalslug53

too bad this isn't your living room ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)