ProjectXenome

Okay okay okay, so just stay with me here, as I see it we've got three options if we're going to change the rules: 
1. Realize that no matter what changes we make to the rules, there's always going to be some form of grey area if we allow any form of sexualized content, and because of this being inevitable, the current set of rules are fine, we've just encountered one of the unavoidable road-bumps, and therefore should deal with the issue but keep the current set of rules. 
2. Try to change the current set of rules to no avail, hypothetically the best we could do is ban any form of nudity including nipples and butts in addition to what our current rules cover, but once again this doesn't really change anything in terms of having to deal with grey areas constantly. 
3. Remove the ability to see sprays. Have to continue dealing with the same issues we're having with sprays with objectors because maybe you don't realize it but people will just fudgeing move to those lmao. 
I don't want to be rude but it does seem like people are hijacking a thread about an admin calling a bad shot to either try and make our rules on sprays more puritanical or remove them entirely. This is the whole reason we have an in-clan bureaucracy, to deal with the inevitable grey areas that will occur no matter what we do. I am slightly more biased because personally I'm not really put off by nudity or weird poop, but I think anyone rallying for a rule change should really examine whether changing the rules will eliminate the problems, or just change the context in which they eventually occur. 

I don't think Krampus has any bias or ill will towards you. He's jut trying to do his best to moderate/regulate things the best he can and in all types of positions like this there might be misjudgments or make mistakes. I think there should be more clarification and specifics on the rules of what can be included in a spray rather than the sort of cookie cutter rule presented generally on places like the forums and server itself. I think getting real specific will help resolve any confusions people may have regarding sprays as it won't leave people guessing what's acceptable or not.
I also think that all staff should be informed of the rule so everyone is consistent in saying what is and what isn't acceptable.
Though sprays might be a hard thing to regulate as there will always be a spray that will be in the middle ground and left for staff to make a tough decision. I personally believe that sprays that don't include gentiles by being edited out or covered should be allowed, including the two sprays you made.
I'm sorry to hear that you've been having trouble with this and I hope it's resolved fairly soon. I'm sure this discussion will help implement something new.

Admins In-Game Name: [xG:A] Krampus
Admins STEAM-ID: STEAM_0:1:88632487
Your In-Game Name: YeEternalTuna
Your STEAM-ID: STEAM_0:1:56604228
What server did this happen in?: TF2 Surf
What exactly did the abuser do?: Showed bias towards sprays
Did it affect other players?: Yes
Explain the entire situation here:
So around 10 on June 8th, I was playing on surf like normal and there were some sprays that got my attention that were somehow allowed to be sprayed, even though it broke the  spray rule.
With this in mind I thought ''why not test something out'' and decided to find a picture of my own in order to test the bias of this whole spray thing. (with editing help from @NitNat ).

First picture is mine and the other is one that was allowed by plenty of staff. As you can see the areola is quite large and visable while my image has the barbie doll censoring. My image was allowed by Frostyboigrim but denied by Krampus and I had thought it was really odd that they allowed butts to be shown and stuff like the spider oc pic but not my image so this is where my second experiment comes in with the help of @LemonVolt which involved a image found and edited by him.

Again, going by the way Krampus worded his previous warning, butts were allowed so no problem right? Matt sprayed the shown picture and was immediately told to remove it. Krampus had stated that it wasn't allowed because ''its obvious that its a pornographic picture and you can tell whats under the sticker''. Matt had argued with that quoting krampus on how butts were allowed and was kicked for ''trolling''. He had explained it showed the entire body as well and too much of the butt. So my two brain cells sparked and I had remembered something from a few days ago that Precious slutboi had sprayed which means it HAD to be allowed right?

This image was obtained from my tf2 files (where you find all the sprayed images within your tf2 game) and I had Lemonvolt spray it down to get Krampus's thoughts on it (I'm pretty sure you already know the outcome of this) and something quite odd happened...
Now how is it that our spray (the image with the lemon censoring which I will refer as experiment #2) isn't allowed but the one of Kass is? It makes absolute no sense what so ever because its virtually the same exact thing but one is depicting a anthropomorphic bird man and the other is of a human female. It just screams hypocrisy and bias and as you can see when confronted he runs out of the little common sense he had left in him. Apparently ours is ''clearly taken from a pornographic image'' and just ''censored with a sticker'' even tho just by looking at the Kass picture you can TELL its cropped. The blind biased pass for the (kass) spray gets a pass when it’s clearly cropped nsfw. The (lemon censored) spray is set up exactly the same besides the fact that it’s a real person instead of a furry.
Also Aegean has given me permission to put it in TF2 Discussion due to there being an error in the report abuse thread application.

might delete soon but I felt cute in this pic ????

Ayy lmao here's me on flight school. :^]

I feel whenever I'm cooking something it's always something sort of basic. I kinda don't really go out and cook much that doesn't have directions on the back of a box because I tend to worry a lot. However I did kinda do something new today. I actually just cooked pork chops in oil I used shortly before to cook baby scallops. It was something small but it kinda made a big difference at least for me. In terms of a general "Region" or "style" of food I don't mind too much. 

Just something I had been thinking of, obviously not everyone is going to like to cook the same thing. So what style of cooking do you tend to go to when you're preparing a meal. Personally I enjoy cooking from regions that involve more use of spices, such as Indian or Mexican.

In-Game Name
TAoW Hunter Division
Team Fortress 2 Previous Member
Yes Identity
https://steamcommunity.co Previously Banned
Yes Time Active on Servers
11 Days Reason for Joining
So, I was in a clan named cgl, this clan corrupted me and I became someone I'm not today, this caused me to be very VERY inactive in xg, soon maf convinced me to leave cgl which I did and my attitude and time on xg has increased a lot. Now I did something on xg which I regret and to the admin team, I'm sorry, I hope you saw the discord messege, I then started going on xG again to improve my rep, and just have fun! xG is still my happy place, xG still makes me very happy, and I'm proud to even still be on your servers! This is why I want to be a member of xG.

Won't lie it bothers the hell out of me cause spiders icky gross, but it's actually a really well done image. The hair is kinda lacking, everything else though looks fantastic. I think you should deffinitly be happy about it.

I commissioned this profile picture from someone really cool! I wondered what you all think of it.

I commissioned this profile picture from someone really cool! I wondered what you all think of it.

*Sad face*

It's some weird character that's supposed to be a combination of a few others. What do you all think of the anatomy? I usually start from the legs up or other parts. I'm kinda weird in how I plan out my drawings.

H0t

In-Game Name
Fishbait Division
Team Fortress 2 Previous Member
No Identity
STEAM_0:0:124467626 Previously Banned
No Time Active on Servers
67 hours Reason for Joining
I like surfing and the community is friendly

Two minor changes to take note of
 
Due to the previous issues that have occurred and strong disagreement in when bans should and should not be disregarded, an actual "decay" is going to be implemented for server bans.
Any bans that occurred one year prior should be considered out dated and not effective on the length of new bans issued to players (Unless the ban itself was of a greater length of time).
This also doesn't change that staff should highly consider the reasons for previous bans and not base current action off just a time frame.
 
Another small change is for the wording of the rule on custom images. This is to make part of it less vague and more clear where the line is held.

Sprays, avatars and items that are able to be customized cannot contain the following: explicit nudity/genitalia, racism, hate symbols, gore, derogatory content and images of sexualized minors (this includes drawn images).

So hopefully these serve to make things more defined both for staff members as well as new comers.

I can agree with Frosty, you don't have to find a lot of people, but even just one person to help lift you up and make you feel good really can make a difference.
 
As hard as it may seem right now, try to find some sort of hobby, preferably something where you can see your progress as it happens. Creating something and seeing that you made it may help you feel better. 
 
Also, if you ever need someone to talk to and just vent, you can message me Xeno, I don't like to see anyone going through this sort of situation because I was in a similar place not long ago and it sucked.

Hey man, idk what to do exactly but this is what I have been doing: 
So as many of you know I'm 15 and in high school, but i also weigh 265 pounds. Im a strong, tall, large framed person, but i also have lots of extra fat. As a depressive and an externally motivated person, its hard to get in shape. My dad is also depressed (on a much worse level) and is externally motivated. To get around our problems we motivate each other. Through this I've started a workout routine and am working to get into shape. Mu recommendation is that you find someone who can help you, and you work with them to help boost yourself back up. Its never easy but its always worth it.

I've would have written this as a status rather than an entire topic but couldn't be able to find out how to write a status anywhere on this website. I guess this is a vent of sorts. Recently I feel like I've just been unreasonably bitter towards some friends and what's going on in their lives. Seeing and hearing of their successes and events they plan where I'm just sitting back lazily without doing anything with my life. These are people I spent years with and known for so long throughout my life. Seeing them go about their lives and actually doing things just gives me this sick feeling in my chest and I just feel frustration for no clear reason. I should be happy that their actually progressing and doing things but I just feel bitterness.
I think it's because I know that I myself aren't doing anything, being lazy, not making any effort to make any friends or do anything to help progress anything in my life. Maybe I just feel angry because they are actually doing something and living a normal life that I never really got a chance to experience due to my parents. These feelings are probably just my fault and I should try to do better. I should try to pull myself out of the depression and resent I feel and do something I will be proud of and help me into my life as an adult. But it's been so hard to feel anything other than lethargic.
It's been hard to continue everyday as is. I just wake up everyday with the same feeling of disinterest and lack of motivation for anything. I've been loosing interest in a lot of things, even video games which I spent most of my time doing over so many other things. It's been hard to find any reason to get out of bed. I almost just want it all to stop, I don't have any interest and continuing with the rest of my life and I just want it to stop so I don't have to feel anything anymore. So all the present pain, past pain, and my mundane future will all cease.
That's all I have to say for now. Sorry if this isn't allowed here. Sorry for the edgy post in general.

I've would have written this as a status rather than an entire topic but couldn't be able to find out how to write a status anywhere on this website. I guess this is a vent of sorts. Recently I feel like I've just been unreasonably bitter towards some friends and what's going on in their lives. Seeing and hearing of their successes and events they plan where I'm just sitting back lazily without doing anything with my life. These are people I spent years with and known for so long throughout my life. Seeing them go about their lives and actually doing things just gives me this sick feeling in my chest and I just feel frustration for no clear reason. I should be happy that their actually progressing and doing things but I just feel bitterness.
I think it's because I know that I myself aren't doing anything, being lazy, not making any effort to make any friends or do anything to help progress anything in my life. Maybe I just feel angry because they are actually doing something and living a normal life that I never really got a chance to experience due to my parents. These feelings are probably just my fault and I should try to do better. I should try to pull myself out of the depression and resent I feel and do something I will be proud of and help me into my life as an adult. But it's been so hard to feel anything other than lethargic.
It's been hard to continue everyday as is. I just wake up everyday with the same feeling of disinterest and lack of motivation for anything. I've been loosing interest in a lot of things, even video games which I spent most of my time doing over so many other things. It's been hard to find any reason to get out of bed. I almost just want it all to stop, I don't have any interest and continuing with the rest of my life and I just want it to stop so I don't have to feel anything anymore. So all the present pain, past pain, and my mundane future will all cease.
That's all I have to say for now. Sorry if this isn't allowed here. Sorry for the edgy post in general.

You didn't look like who I expected you to look like honestly
My human holding me in their hand.

Trails should be fixed now!
~closed

Does anyone know when the trails are going to be fixed for the tf2 surf server, is it being worked on? I heard from others that the exact same code used in the Xenogamers server is used in other servers and works but not in the Xenogamers one. It's been a long time since I seen trails working and it's be nice to have something to waste all my credits on.

It did get resolved, I just lost a lot of items
 

Yes, looks very cool!