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Ok I shall propose an idea to you. Instead of making this forum post calling out the higher ups to the whole community, maybe call in a meeting or something or just say something to them when you catch them online. I can see you took time and effort into making this post, but this post doesn't affect most of our lives. Im not saying I disagree with what you are saying, but maybe bring this matter to the higher ups and not the whole community. (inb4 massive hate spam for an opinion)

Ok I shall propose an idea to you. Instead of making this forum post calling out the higher ups to the whole community, maybe call in a meeting or something or just say something to them when you catch them online. I can see you took time and effort into making this post, but this post doesn't affect most of our lives. Im not saying I disagree with what you are saying, but maybe bring this matter to the higher ups and not the whole community. (inb4 massive hate spam for an opinion)

Ok I shall propose an idea to you. Instead of making this forum post calling out the higher ups to the whole community, maybe call in a meeting or something or just say something to them when you catch them online. I can see you took time and effort into making this post, but this post doesn't affect most of our lives. Im not saying I disagree with what you are saying, but maybe bring this matter to the higher ups and not the whole community. (inb4 massive hate spam for an opinion)

Ok I shall propose an idea to you. Instead of making this forum post calling out the higher ups to the whole community, maybe call in a meeting or something or just say something to them when you catch them online. I can see you took time and effort into making this post, but this post doesn't affect most of our lives. Im not saying I disagree with what you are saying, but maybe bring this matter to the higher ups and not the whole community. (inb4 massive hate spam for an opinion)

+1 for week ban. Every time I'm on with him he always creates an argument of some sorts. Doesn't matter the topic, he will find a way to argue it. And there is always somebody on the server he ends up pissing off for doing what he does. We constantly told him to stop arguing and he would just end up starting again immediately after we told him to stop. I would't say he deserves a perma ban, but one of the big bois needs to talk to him on steam and tell him to stop.

Division
Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name
Bonfire Offender's Identity
Sucy the Mushroom Ban Type
Server Ban Explanation and Evidence Ever since Sucy first started playing on tgh he's always been at the center of heated arguments on the server.
Every time he's on the server he always says very controversial statements.
At this point he's saying things like this just to get a rise out of everyone and to make people on the server upset.
Right now Sucy is muted for a month, But a problem rises that he can still do what he was muted for in text and it looks like he still has full intent to do what he normally does but instead of over the mic he just says it in chat which still creates the same problem.
In my opinion, the only way we can tell him to stop acting like this is a ban of some sort. He just joins the server to upset people and cause controversy.

Thoughts? I'm telling you right now if this update delivers and is smooth for most people to run, I will host community nights consistently with different forge maps. This is my childhood and I'm so excited!

Get off the stage 

Damn. One of the old fags has left. I'll miss seeing you on the servers (like i saw you anyways). You have always been one of the people that stuck by xG. You will a special place in (most of) our hearts. May the scary internet take you somewhere nice and not filled with drama. ?

Damn. One of the old fags has left. I'll miss seeing you on the servers (like i saw you anyways). You have always been one of the people that stuck by xG. You will a special place in (most of) our hearts. May the scary internet take you somewhere nice and not filled with drama. ?

i dont think virr is real

+1
This community is no place for scammers or thieves. The evidence clearly shows that's what this person is.

Yes........Yes......Yes...Yes...

has hellcase in his name. ?

I would not be happy with a full reset of the world. It wouldn't even be required or helpful for the sake of new content. But if that's what everyone else wants what can you do?
I feel like it should be mentioned that tekkit is a bulky modpack and not a plugin. A tekkit server would require every client to have the modpack, which takes like three minutes to launch and eats RAM like a bitch.

Hey, It's your boy Skelly, I just swore in as a member of the US Navy. I will be deploying on June 5th for boot camp and I'll be stepping down shortly before that. I appreciate everything this community has down for me and I might come back eventually, but for now I need to serve my country and better my life. Thank you all for the amazing memories and I'll stop by every once in a while to see what drama a waits me. I love you all so much

Surprised @Kypari hasn't posted this here.
If you're into the heavier side of metal, IE Deathcore, then you will probably like this within the first 5 seconds.
Wait for 1:02. Holy shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OObnE2KtBZU

This. This sentence right here. This sentence defines the reason as to why I haven't gotten staff yet. What I am about to say is most likely going to affect my chances now, but I have talked with higher ups. They told me the same thing. One person -1, another +1, another neutral. I guess that automatically means a no right? Well it shouldn't. Just because there is a single -1 shouldn't change the fact of getting declined or not. At least keep the application open for a little bit. (Also this might be a problem happening with me but +1 on staff application doesn't feel like it does anything. If it does, I have 0 chance of getting at least probationary mod because nobody sees my fucking application. A great example is my last application; the one before my most recent. Anyways. Back to your regularly scheduled immediate no staff for sepdick.)
 
My main point here is this: Higher ups need to talk more instead of having an instant decline because one of them doesn't like him/her/helicopter/catboy or doesn't know him/her/helicopter/catboy. Actually use the probationary moderator to see what they can do. If they don't do well, then they don't get full mod and get put back to member.
 
 
Anyways as for Ms. Spooks herself,
I am sorry that shit isn't going right for. It was to suck to be moderator for as long as you have and not get promoted. My biggest hope right now is that I wasn't part of the reason for you leaving. I try my best to be nice to everybody. I just feel like I didn't talk enough with you. I'm sorry for not doing so. Truly I am. I hope that everything works out for you in the future. Thank you for everything you have done for the community <3

Everyone knows I love putting in my post on controversial threads!
 
I'm not quoting anything because then I will have a cancerous time editing down the pieces I want to respond to for everyone. Since clearly @Ms.Spooks will not be responding and or reading, I don't feel like this is directed at her more so at others who are saying "this is 100% true! omg xg sucks!"
 

A piece of advice I was given was "Keep your supervisors accountable, especially when it comes to potential promotions to a position of leadership. But do not pester them with constant nagging about said promotions" Basically saying every once in a while (2 or more promotion cycles in the case of xg and being on the internet, longer in the case of real life), ask a few questions about it and see what kind of constructive feedback can be garnered. but if you are asking about it every other day or even 1 a week, the thoughts behind your application/request will gradually (or quickly) go from "this person wants to be promoted/do more" to "this person is needy/demanding/needs to get over themself.
Don't be discouraged when you are not promoted as quickly as you think you should, there are a lot of factors that come into the minds of those responsible for the promotions, be it an internet community, or a workplace.

[*]Staff are volunteers not lackeys, yes this is true, but as staff even on a volunteer basis, you are expected to do the job that you agreed to do. I can volunteer to rebuild my brother/sisters master bedroom shower for them, and they will expect that I complete the task of rebuilding their shower, and that it is completed correctly, all the pipes connected, all the water working, and that on the outside there is no discernible error that looks completely awful. they also would expect that on the inside I haven't done anything that will break under normal wear and tear conditions in a less than average timespan, as well as not do anything that makes a hassle for repair during special circumstances. If I were to not complete the rebuild, or do a pretty shitty job at rebuilding it, then they would be rightfully pissed. likewise, if I am asking them for food/beer/to dog-sit while I do it, they would rightfully expect that my standard is of a better job. (this sounds confusing but the point behind it is that if you volunteer to do something, expect to be held accountable to it, and if you want to be given a title for it, expect to be expected to do more.)
[*]Transparency is necessary, however there are some limits. Promotions were something I used to think "oh why dont they just tell me what i need to do to be promoted" but that is a very backwards ideology, something I learned is that if you want the position of leadership then show some leadership, take the initiative to mentor newer mods or explain why something is against rules/what they are to newer players. for those that I would promote back in the day, I based it off of a few things: are they active (dont have to be the most active person, but not have noticeable gaps of inactivity), do they have any bans on record for major violations (banned a couple hours for spam is no big deal, contrary to the popular belief that staff have to be perfect and can never break a single rule, shit happens), does the community respect them

more detail on that last one: Does the community respect you? I did not necessarily want staff the community liked, I wanted someone they respected. If the person is a people pleaser and sort of a push over, how can I trust them to maintain the servers/rules with integrity if they just want everyone to like them? People typically dont like being banned and they dont like the people who ban them. I wanted people who the community could trust and respect their word, that the community knew that this person knew what he was talking about when it came to the rules, and upkeep of the server.

[*]Witnesses do matter, and a staff witness does also matter. but there are some issues with that which I have said previously. If the staff are witnessing something, why are they not dealing out the appropriate form of punishment for it? Witnesses come in and they can +1 or -1 all they want for ban req/protest etc. and that matters, they see this person doing x all the time. but unless there is evidence, it is a case of he said she said. again, the "staff witness" should have dealt with the issue at hand as it happened. (exception: staff witness observed x freekill, and appropriately slayed and warned. observed it again, teamswapped. nothing else happens. player again is caught doing this, and a ban request with proof is made by a non-staff player and they throw out their experience, typically this would lead to a more severe form of punishment than a slap on the wrist/1 day ban from that post. but remember this "staff witness" has followed the proper procedure of actually taking action on what they have seen as per their role, and it is documented in our bans)
[*]Staff shouldn't be jumping over the other to show their e-penis. if someone is clearly handling it, let them handle it and go on and enjoy your time on the server or do some other staff tasks (like watching other things going on in the server). This is also an issue of staff communication, back in the old days, we were all on TS because that was expected that if staff were on server we were to be on a voice channel. (it didnt have to be the TF2 JB1 channel on TS, but some available channel of sorts) and we all talked to eachother, we typed in admin chat all the time (there were some days depending on who was on that you couldn't press Y and not see some form of admin chat). we let each other know "hey I'll take care of X" or "I'm giving X a ban for this" and nobody else jumped over them because they were informed of what was happening. nowadays, I haven't seen really any of the staff on Discord except for the DM/DLs (and this has been a problem for years now, especially in regards to the tf2 division unfortunately. no offense, but you guys dont make active efforts to communicate outside of the forums and your friends)
[*]As for the +1 0 -1 and it means you dont get promoted, like @Aegean said, there are times where the response is "i'm not for this, but if you are all down with it, then go ahead." having a single negative remark doesn't mean that it immediately is trashed. it just means that the person has concerns for X Y Z and they want them to be known before a final choice is made. There are also times where there are several negative remarks but only 1 positive and that positive is very huge (and the negatives are over petty/misguided reasons) [example: Someone was previously promoted on my final decision as a DL, where my DMs had given reasons not to but after having a chat with them they came to the realization that their reasonings were driven by their own personal issues with something that was said/done previously and were willing to give it a shot, even though they both still did not think person x should be promoted they respected my thoughts, and gave it a chance.]
[*]Nobody is entitled to a higher position because they have been here longer. There is no clear path to mod/admin/dm/dl other than be active and a positive role model. There will always be less and less positions the higher you go. and whether you have been there for 7 years, or 7 months, both people have equal opportunity at a position based on their skill, integrity, knowledge, and ability to communicate.


Thanks for the sick read friendos. There is never going to be a TL;DR on anything like this. Take the time to read it and let it sink in, there is no short version of it.

This. This sentence right here. This sentence defines the reason as to why I haven't gotten staff yet. What I am about to say is most likely going to affect my chances now, but I have talked with higher ups. They told me the same thing. One person -1, another +1, another neutral. I guess that automatically means a no right? Well it shouldn't. Just because there is a single -1 shouldn't change the fact of getting declined or not. At least keep the application open for a little bit. (Also this might be a problem happening with me but +1 on staff application doesn't feel like it does anything. If it does, I have 0 chance of getting at least probationary mod because nobody sees my fucking application. A great example is my last application; the one before my most recent. Anyways. Back to your regularly scheduled immediate no staff for sepdick.)
 
My main point here is this: Higher ups need to talk more instead of having an instant decline because one of them doesn't like him/her/helicopter/catboy or doesn't know him/her/helicopter/catboy. Actually use the probationary moderator to see what they can do. If they don't do well, then they don't get full mod and get put back to member.
 
 
Anyways as for Ms. Spooks herself,
I am sorry that shit isn't going right for. It was to suck to be moderator for as long as you have and not get promoted. My biggest hope right now is that I wasn't part of the reason for you leaving. I try my best to be nice to everybody. I just feel like I didn't talk enough with you. I'm sorry for not doing so. Truly I am. I hope that everything works out for you in the future. Thank you for everything you have done for the community <3

This. This sentence right here. This sentence defines the reason as to why I haven't gotten staff yet. What I am about to say is most likely going to affect my chances now, but I have talked with higher ups. They told me the same thing. One person -1, another +1, another neutral. I guess that automatically means a no right? Well it shouldn't. Just because there is a single -1 shouldn't change the fact of getting declined or not. At least keep the application open for a little bit. (Also this might be a problem happening with me but +1 on staff application doesn't feel like it does anything. If it does, I have 0 chance of getting at least probationary mod because nobody sees my fucking application. A great example is my last application; the one before my most recent. Anyways. Back to your regularly scheduled immediate no staff for sepdick.)
 
My main point here is this: Higher ups need to talk more instead of having an instant decline because one of them doesn't like him/her/helicopter/catboy or doesn't know him/her/helicopter/catboy. Actually use the probationary moderator to see what they can do. If they don't do well, then they don't get full mod and get put back to member.
 
 
Anyways as for Ms. Spooks herself,
I am sorry that shit isn't going right for. It was to suck to be moderator for as long as you have and not get promoted. My biggest hope right now is that I wasn't part of the reason for you leaving. I try my best to be nice to everybody. I just feel like I didn't talk enough with you. I'm sorry for not doing so. Truly I am. I hope that everything works out for you in the future. Thank you for everything you have done for the community <3