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On 7/20/2019 at 1:23 PM, yadingo said:

While his toxicity warrants some sort of warning, I feel that a ban is disproportionate to what he's actually doing. If we held this precedence of members getting banned for these levels of toxicity, we would ban every person who's had a bad day or two. Also, jumping straight to a ban seems a little unwarranted when he has no discord warnings whatsoever. While I know he's received numerous verbal warnings, he isn't a person who has, say, 5+ pages of warnings like some members do. 

In conclusion, banning someone outright seems unwarranted, when they have received little to no warnings whatsoever. While his actions still warrants a warning, I feel his actions have been blown out of proportion. I would warn him, and if he is to continue for an extended period of time, a ban would be warranted.

I agree with pretty much everything you said here, but would still like to point out the fact that the people with 4-5+ pages of warnings either have meme warnings or their warnings are over an extended period of time. In Crow's/Decidueye's case, he has received multiple verbal or text warnings within the span of 2-3 weeks. I'd also like to mention that there were some problems with this specific player back in 2017 which form the very foundation of this ban request. I find it odd to compare someone who starts arguments on the daily to someone who occasionally and jokingly says "TF2 dead division" or the hard r n-word.

17 hours ago, hongkongatron said:

+1 for member removal at the very least, if not ban

has been a massive pain for anyone around him whether it be on tf2 or discord, constantly trying to shut people down for any meager reason, causes trouble rather than meaningful discussions in terms of walls of text, etc etc

ive been so lenient to the point where im mentally handicapped

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Currently, these are the problems with Crow-

  • He's a member of the community (as of 2017) and fails to meet the standards that we hold any and all of our members to. (Read his member application in one of my previous posts if you haven't already.)
  • He has openly expressed his hatred for the community, including the players and the servers.
  • He constantly starts arguments in the Discord due to his inability to take other people's opinions into mind. If he were able to have a civil discussion on the topic, none of us would have any reason to hate him, as everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
  • Constant general player disrespect
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On 7/20/2019 at 1:23 PM, yadingo said:

While his toxicity warrants some sort of warning, I feel that a ban is disproportionate to what he's actually doing. If we held this precedence of members getting banned for these levels of toxicity, we would ban every person who's had a bad day or two. Also, jumping straight to a ban seems a little unwarranted when he has no discord warnings whatsoever. While I know he's received numerous verbal warnings, he isn't a person who has, say, 5+ pages of warnings like some members do. 

In conclusion, banning someone outright seems unwarranted, when they have received little to no warnings whatsoever. While his actions still warrants a warning, I feel his actions have been blown out of proportion. I would warn him, and if he is to continue for an extended period of time, a ban would be warranted.

 

 

I agree with pretty much everything you said here, but would still like to point out the fact that the people with 4-5+ pages of warnings either have meme warnings or their warnings are over an extended period of time. In Crow's/Decidueye's case, he has received multiple verbal or text warnings within the span of 2-3 weeks. I'd also like to mention that there were some problems with this specific player back in 2017 which form the very foundation of this ban request. I find it odd to compare someone who starts arguments on the daily to someone who occasionally and jokingly says "TF2 dead division" or the hard r n-word.

16 hours ago, hongkongatron said:

+1 for member removal at the very least, if not ban

has been a massive pain for anyone around him whether it be on tf2 or discord, constantly trying to shut people down for any meager reason, causes trouble rather than meaningful discussions in terms of walls of text, etc etc

ive been so lenient to the point where im mentally handicapped

This^

Currently, these are the problems with Crow-

  • He's a member of the community (as of 2017) and fails to meet the standards that we hold any and all of our members to. (Read his member application in one of my previous posts if you haven't already.)
  • He has openly expressed his hatred for the community, including the players and the servers.
  • He constantly starts arguments in the Discord due to his inability to take other people's opinions into mind. If he were able to have a civil discussion on the topic, none of us would have any reason to hate him, as everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
  • Constant general player disrespect