QueenOfHearts

+1 We do not want this on our servers. I am sorry this happened to you

So Sep 4th through Sep 10th I will be down in Florida. Obv I won't be all that active but I may get on once or twice? (no promises).

Just giving you all a heads up as I will not be able to hit hours for obvious reasons

Can't wait to see you guys when I get back!

Microphone, unless you do not care too much about audio quality. And unusual is digital and is really nothing in the grand scheme

+1 has mic. Tbf though he is cool and active

A:10

M:8

1. Defunctland

2.Hand Tool Rescue

3. Videogamedunky

4.Jerma985

5. RoosterTeeth and Achievement Hunter

1 minute ago, MJP said:

Thank you aegan. The problem was that it was an apology trying to make excuses for why she did it instead of admitting they fucked up. The apology shouldn't have been written in the first place because the "mistake" should never have been made. Thats why I'm mad right now.

I admit I fucked up and am sorry you feel that way

55 minutes ago, MJP said:

Well, you have proved my point in the entire message. In the regards, you act like a hypocrite and complain about XGs dwindling numbers for the fault of your own. I also think you can't complain about me starting drama when you and other staff members like I said before tell me to leave, This is fucking ridiculous and this is one of the reasons I felt unwelcome in the community.

I was not trying to say you should leave it was a miswording on my part. I was trying to say that perhaps you could go to the CS:GO, division if you dislike the tf2 one so much. While we would love to have you here it is clear you dislike most of us

I apologize to MJP and to xG for my unprofessionalism. I was not trying to tell someone to leave more agreeing that maybe tf2 is not for them. On the topic of source bans, I meant mostly his Comms.

And while I do think he has potential, most of his antics on the servers seem to be starting drama and getting his way. As well as harassing members even after they leave the server (image attached)

I do not mean to make xG unprofessional and humbly apologize

3 minutes ago, ReverseMJP said:

I only see them on surf and when I see them on surf I leave. When they join TGH I leave. I feel very unwelcome because of certain staff. Its gotten to the point where when one of my friends feels like shit on your servers we say a codeword and we all dip. I'm thinking of playing on CSGO servers because of some of the tf2 staff.

Then leave? Most of your friend group are known rule breakers and cause issues on our servers. If you have issues with people punishing you for breaking rules then maybe stop breaking them

17 minutes ago, ReverseMJP said:

. The surf staff is the only staff that does this to me because if you look at the bans you can see none of them are on the other XG servers (in recent months).

 

 

Most of the staff that banned you play on other servers, they are xG staff. They are not just surf staff.

You have said on multiple occasions you get off when to much staff is on. You like to go to servers with no staff so you can break rules and start things (as you yourself have stated). Your source bans list on our servers is....colorful.  You say that you have reasons for arguing with staff and that its, when we abuse our power or whatever but really what that translates to, is that you do not like being punished and have a problem with authority (something you have shown on multiple occasions).

So no I do not think you would be a good addition to our community as you have also shown you only care about yourself and those who like/don't punish you and anyone else is wrong and abusive. 

https://bans.xenogamers.com/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch= STEAM_0:1:100543988 &advType=steamid

46 minutes ago, ReverseMJP said:

My instances of argueing with staff are be cause you act irresponsible with how you inforce that rule shutting down people who you think “cause issues” (which is incredibly vague reasoning) and then when someone tries to explain that they didn’t do anything you punish them. That’s why I’m makin a thread on it in about 2 weeks.

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But like most of your posts and points about the server you wish to change, it's for your own good and to turn the server into your own playground and make sure the rules are what you want them to be. You do not care about the community, or what the effect of these changes would be so long as it benefits you. You even tend to go and blackmail, and scrounge for "evidence" to get people you do not like demoted. If you were to be helpful, accepting and open to our community this would be a different thread but so far all I have seen is hostility 

-1 Likes to start drama.  Immature and is know to break rules when possible. On top of this is never around that long and leaves for long periods. Has also indicated in the past he want member just to get mod.

A: When he is around 7. When he leaves again 2

M:6

1 minute ago, Sesh said:

 

Plus, if you ban one thing you may as wel start banning every other offensive word now that could be deemed rude or mean towards a group of people, or just anything rude altogether

 

But we already started that, with slurs, why not just complete the job? Faggot is about on the same level as the n-word, it is just used more because homophobia has been an ok thing for a much longer time

2 minutes ago, Goblins said:

I doubt people would leave over banning a word (which still shouldn’t be banned). It’ll just leave a disgusting taste in a decent amount of the population’s mouth.

Queen, can I ask if there was previous incidents where you were attacked by players using “faggot”?

A few people on the server were, I included, yes

3 minutes ago, Kypari said:

We're trying too hard at this point. There's literally no benefit to banning people from saying words like autistic or other such words unless they specifically offend people, and that's basically the whole premise for the word faggot too.

I can agree with that. It was more of a counterpoint to "ban all these words too then". I think we should really ban words made with the sole purpose to offend, and when are not used for that reason are used because kids thinks its cool funny and edgy to use such words

5 hours ago, Elcark said:

List of disability-related terms with negative connotations - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

Please ban every word in this list.

The terminology of a slur is incredibly broad, the concept of banning all slurs is not as simple as disallowing a small handful of words. Cunt is a genderphobic slur. Tranny is a sexual slur. Cheesehead and hillbilly are ethnic slurs. Disallowing the great variety of words that can easily be defined as a slur is something that has been in the community narrowed down to a number of notable ethnic slurs, but why is that? As far as I believe, expectations of behavior derived from societal norms. It is not uncommon to see a variety of words such as bitch and fag that can be defined as slurs be used openly to an extent they are words you can hear multiple times a day and nothing would be out of the norm. Breaking out some of the more notorious racial slurs such as chink, kike, or nigger are not something you will see used at all by a much greater extent and are viewed negatively practically universally. Ethnic slurs like this have a much stronger taboo rooted to them that sees even uttering them as unacceptable, a taboo which faggot does not have to the same extent. Famous pieces of literature such as "To Kill a Mocking Bird" and "Huckleberry finn" (and other works of Mark Twain I believe) have received such censorship over these slurs to see them banned from schools in more then one occasion, while this is not the case for sexual and gender slurs. To put it simply, faggot is just not seen negatively to the same extent as the aforementioned racial and ethnic slurs by society as a whole. 

The etymology of the word faggot has received harsher criticism over time of course, but so have a great many. Autistic is very often used in an equally negative sense and is viewed harshly because of this. The same goes for retard, though to a much greater extent in recent times to the point the word is discouraged to be used entirely in some places even when not used in a direct negative way. Banning faggot would be hypocritical in itself if we did not take into consideration other words that exist on similar levels of disdain within society these days, but what is the likely hood that this community is going to view such words in such an extreme light?

This community has spent at least two years functioning fine in this same mindset that faggot does not necessarily quantify the same connotation as the racial slurs we don't allow. It by all means can and is used in an insulting and disrespectful manner, just like practically anything can, and the situations that this happens have always been handled appropriately without having to resort to such an extremity as this. The only reason I would personally feel it is a necessary act would be if we believed either the community was incapable of behaving in a mature enough manner to use this word without absolutely meaning it to be derogatory or if it was believed our staff were incapable of properly knowing how to differentiate between the two cases. Otherwise, it is straight up a matter of constraints on the entire population for the personal felt benefit of a smaller portion. The phrasing "xG is becoming safe space" is an extreme way of expressing it's intended concept, but in this case at it's root that phrasing is entirely accurate. 

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The thing is most of these have developed new meanings and are not taken as insults by anyone. A few of these words are currently banned and a few more of them I can agree on banning. This list is not all things that are offensive but could be in some context. I would support banning autistic as an insult or midget, or Vegetable (window licker though hmm). These are words that hurt people, and really a general "No slurs, no derogatory slang" rule would work great. But I feel coming down and nitpicking that  "oh  my great aunts best friends sister found this offensive" does not help the case as the words we are discussing her do have a strong negative presence in today's society and I think we should have a tighter rein on them

An issue that we have on our servers is our treatment of slurs and offensive words. We don’t allow racial slurs and other vocabulary made to demean and offend, something that benefits the servers, But one word escapes this rule

Faggot

It is ridiculous that it is allowed considering the fact that the servers have such a large LGBTQ+ presence , but that is why this thread was made, to discuss and push the fact that it really should not be allowed. On Top of the fact that is offensive and often used in toxic ways, it paints the server as hypocritical. Why ban some slurs and not others? I have often kicked/muted people for slurs who then start saying faggot asking why this is allowed, why am I not muting them. It is a bad message to send. I know that there are people who wish to keep their right to openly say slurs (despite no real reason to) but really it is detrimental to the message we are trying to send and does nothing beneficial to the servers.

So I ask that we vote, to enforce a ban on the word, a notion me and other mods, try to enforce already, as it hurts us, hurts them, hurts us all and sends a hypocritical message to any new and veteran players.

Now here is what I propose, should we ban gay xG marriage? 

Oh fudge, that's no fun. Thanks for the heads up!

Usually its just just the button wore down, if you take it apart and put like a piece of plastic or whatever is should work

24 minutes ago, Tatost said:

no thanks, people just using the music rooms on maps makes me want to jump off of a cliff. I have my own music, I don't want to hear a terrible song mixed in with what I'm listening to.

Music rooms are fun as poop though. So long as there is no micspam ones

My suggestion is when a player rolls Toxic, it should play Britney Spears toxic around the player. Just locally so its not a whole server spam (if thats possible)

9 minutes ago, NoobDestroy said:

I remember playing with him on CSS JB and Surf in early 2011, very interesting guy, and definitely deserves to be remembered as one of xG's first, its hard to forget the memories of others of back then, Ero-Sennin, Rabid, Serbian, Trollface, and Duckii just to name a few.

Very sad to see indeed.

God same, Troll face was cool, always messing with the servers. Rest in peace man

-1 uneccesary, its just 30 seconds, I don't see the reasson to have one person ruin everyones fun

No! You are a great dud and a great member. No need to step down man