SyrixCoffeeWolf

I just called him out for bodyblock and we just exchanged a few words then left it on that. You can't call that toxic nor was I breaking any rules at the time.

"Context" refers to the situation that is occurring and considering it with the punishments that you may or may not give. However, context does not make you void from punishment if someone else is breaking a rule. If I got to tell everyone who micspammed, spammed chat, was racist or whatever to suck my dick and call them a faggot or whatever insult exists then I would have a lot of fun but I would also get in serious shit. Someone else breaking a rule does NOT give you permission to break rules yourself otherwise you are no better than the person who broke the rule in the first place. Whether staff was present or not doesn't make a difference to whether you broke a rule or not.

For some context, I was not online during this; The information I have is provided here and through discord; This is my unimportant opinion on the situation.
My main issues with this situation are that Red evaded gag and that what was said wasn't particularly unique in tgh. The gag itself should have been enough of an indicator to not continue the behavior. Unfortunately in the heat of the moment red decided to make a funny and rename himself to evade. A lot of (typically more toxic) randoms tend to use this which issues a kick(since they don't have history in most cases.) Red on the otherhand should know better, but also doesn't have a history(that I know of) for gag evasion. I think this was handled more of a toxicity issue than a gag evasion. Gag evasion, in my opinion, is a lot easier to scale reasonably.
The main issue with determining toxicity stems from intent. Someone of ill intent meaning to effectively bully and harass a user would have more to say than what's basically commonplace. For starters, furfag itself is a joke title. Calling people furfags on tgh isn't anything new and in some cases used as friendly banter. I don't think that this case specifically applies for friendly banter however I don't find it alone strong enough to point at toxicity. I do think that some part of the intent with furfag here was ill meaning. "ur so shit" is definitely not in good intent as it's clearly said to make the other party more upset in the same way as saying "ez" and co. Calling furries "fucking weirdos" on a server with a lot of furries is asking for trouble. However, I don't think it's uncommon. Furries being called weird is almost a daily occurrence in terms of tgh conversation from my own experience. I don't think this case was in ill intent. The issue is the timing adds salt to the wound of him already stirring the pot with "shut the fuck up," "ur a fuckhead," and "ez." Lastly, "suck my dick" the ending words and the rename for gag evasion. Two things, saying suck my dick on tgh (where non surprisingly a lot of people are gay) is funny in of itself because the sheer irony. Secondly, saying variations of dick sucking is so uncommon it's a laughable way to end an argument. It's the slightly more vulgar "no u." in my opinion which makes it even funnier.
I think that seeing furfag, suck my dick, and "you are all fucking weirdos"  aren't really enough on their own with context to show the levels of toxicity that was clearly received. I do think however his shittalking (ur, so shit, ur a fuckhead, ez) Isn't acceptable but still ends up as commonplace on tgh, unfortunately. I think the reasoning was fair from the perspective of Precious. However there is still the can of worms that this behavior *it seems like* is punished on some more than others. I don't think that it's really fair to say that his situation is far worse than if a random joined and did the same actions. I believe the punishment would be delivered in the gag-kick-ban-ban-ban format for a random while Red was already on thin ice, so to speak. He was told to stop, he didn't; he got gagged, he gag evaded. That enough warrants punishment.  He was warned on unban, he was warned on server, but the moment escaped him as he made a mistake. I do think that the focus of the punishment should be on the gag evasion and less on the toxicity as there are more members than just him that shittalk just like that and get away with it for god knows why.
To be clear I don't have an issue with red personally; I think he can be very chill. The evidence is here that he was not chill at the time. I think that's something he can improve on as he has already improved for the better (as others stated.) He was willing to come back after the first ban and do better he might do better again. I don't think there is a reason to report abuse for this case as precious did what any staff would do in the situation. I think the reasoning is a little debatable as the main breaking point was the gag evasion. Hopefully if he does come back he can reflect on this moment for improvement. It's hard to determine tone over text and what he may have seen as friendly banter might not come across as such. Like I said before this kind of shittalking isn't particularly new on tgh. I'd like to see some consistency for some of the other members who seem to get away with this. 
While I think the ban was fair I would like to see him come back and try again as he has made improvements. He shows he is capable of doing better. Hopefully he can find a way to bury the hatchet and make amends. In the mean time I'll drop my current worthless +1.
Tl;dr
Gag evasion should be seen as the main punishment imo
Half of the shittalking going on isn't particularly uncommon and others who employ the toxic half should have similar expectations.
Saying suck my dick on a server with a lot of gay/bi people is funny as hell.
Precious did nothing wrong imo.
I hope red can do better, as he has shown, if he comes back.

I'll like to say in my defense that, I don't think this ban is justified and he shouldn't had ban me in the least. I wasn't even toxic nor attacking anyone during my previous unban. I cleaned up my attitude a bit and i don't say any racial slurs nor do I start any problems but I find it funny how I said "suck my dick" or changed my name to "suck my dick furfags" then hit with ban even though I seen people with far worst names or probably equally the same time of name like Brian previous alias "admins are dumb and furries tbh" 
I knew I was wrong when I changed my name to "suck my dick furfags" which might look like I was trying to loop which wasn't the case I was just fooling around thinking this wouldn't cause any problem nor anyone would be mad about it but apparently not since Precious got offended over it. 
Whenever Precious is on he would have some disgusting binds which I personally would say is unprofessional for one of our staff to say stuff like this.
Precious:

"I'm just givin your dickie dick a lil suckie suck, chill the fuck out bro" 
How come he says shit like this but when I say "suck my dick" once or changed my name to "suck my dick furfags" I get gagged then ban afterwards? It's hypocritical as fuck. 

"slurps on your cocky-wocky and gets all the tasty cummies"

"If your name is Chad you are entitled to a free blowie from me anytime"

"I'm daddy's little fidget spinner. He puts me on his dick, and I spin. Whishhhhhhhh"

"Bunny Boy [xG:A] Krampus : I like riding dildos balls first"
^ Same goes for Krampus, don't be saying stuff like this on the server doesn't matter if majority of the players don't mind it but keep it classy cause once the regulars or new players come on xG servers and see this they'll probably do the same or something far worse.
You shouldn't be saying this on the server period. You should keep it professional and just talk casual instead of just spamming those stupid binds which make me and probably the majority of the server/player base uncomfortable or drive them away. We got children playing on our servers daily I think it's a bad example to be showing them or letting them see or hear this stuff. Keep it in discord or direct messages don't go sprout stuff like this.  Since my 4-5 years being in xG I have never witness this from any staff or higherup. Hopefully our DMs/DLs will talk to them in private and tell them tone it down cause I find this stuff weird and It usually causes bad reactions from players including myself.
I honestly didn't mean for the situation to blow up like it did. I knew I was on my last straw but I didn't think something so light / playful would turn out to bite me the back. x)
I know it's not up to me to be calling out choices but maybe try to consider unban and maybe give me like month gag or something.
 
 

I just want to point out - rating the person defending themselves against you with "salty" when they have a completely reasonable defense really says something

+1 You guys are too sensitive.

As much as it pains me to lose the market pan potential, random crits (or random anything tbh) are an unfun mechanic to deal with on any slot so +1.

If you have a problem you need to give detail behind it instead of making a shitpost insulting the community and expect anyone to know what you have an issue with.

Can we?
Plz?

If someone's ringtone is going off in the background multiple times then it's definitely a cause for being muted for micspam, but that would only be if they didn't follow instructions to turn their phone on mute/vibrate.
 
I don't see any abuse whatsoever on the servers. If they do a vote and 70% say yes, it's entirely justified. Not entirely sure what abuse you are referring to but if you want to PM me about some stuff that would be great! In terms of the sprays, we actually touched up the rules a few months ago which made sprays stricter and people couldn't get away with lewd sprays that didn't violate the rules exactly. Finally, for admins forgetting their tags, all staff make mistakes and small ones like that are usually adjusted within minutes of being on the server. When we play other games, sometimes we don't like to have our tags in, such as when me and my friends play Dead By Daylight and we don't want the other team knowing that we are a pre-made lobby.
Thanks for the kind words dude, I really appreciate it! Give me a message about some names if you want to!
 
Are you quitting xG or taking a break?

I don't think it'd really would change anything since like the whole decision is entirely up to the higher ups anyway, so if people are given an invisible promotion that most likely means the highers ups have gotten to know them very well and have asked people around in community what their thoughts on the person ( which I have seen before) and trust the person so much so that they believe they should be made staff, so it wouldn't really change anything if they made a submission thread or not. So as long as the highers up look into the person carefully before doing an invisible promotion, then it should be fine to stay as is imo.

+1 I like playing the devil's advocate

politics is just shitposting in disguise

I really do not think that having a political channel would have the results that would be desired. There's a reason why we normally don't allow major talk about politics, it's very prone to breaking out into argument due to how different the view points other people can have are. I agree with Chrono that it is possible for politics to be talked about maturely but that is something I fairly rarely ever see.

The good old days where you get permed for saying "kys". Let's also not forget how if you said "perm me no balls" you'd get permed instantly. God, I miss it.

Now that we’re off of this horrendous fucking trainwreck of a ride, lets get right back on with a politics channel.
 
Before its blessed deletion, #shitposting was often used for political discussion (which wasnt really allowed elsewhere). #politics could easily fall under the same category that sports and technology are in. 
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

I really do not think that having a political channel would have the results that would be desired. There's a reason why we normally don't allow major talk about politics, it's very prone to breaking out into argument due to how different the view points other people can have are. I agree with Chrono that it is possible for politics to be talked about maturely but that is something I fairly rarely ever see.

I really do not think that having a political channel would have the results that would be desired. There's a reason why we normally don't allow major talk about politics, it's very prone to breaking out into argument due to how different the view points other people can have are. I agree with Chrono that it is possible for politics to be talked about maturely but that is something I fairly rarely ever see.

if it were able to stay civil and actually a discussion/debate rather than hurling insults at each other I'd fully support it but as everyone else has said that's obviously not what would be happening

I really do not think that having a political channel would have the results that would be desired. There's a reason why we normally don't allow major talk about politics, it's very prone to breaking out into argument due to how different the view points other people can have are. I agree with Chrono that it is possible for politics to be talked about maturely but that is something I fairly rarely ever see.

I really do not think that having a political channel would have the results that would be desired. There's a reason why we normally don't allow major talk about politics, it's very prone to breaking out into argument due to how different the view points other people can have are. I agree with Chrono that it is possible for politics to be talked about maturely but that is something I fairly rarely ever see.

Yeah no this is just going to be #shitposting all over again. You guys do realize that if you want to do things you aren't allowed to do in xG, you can always like, you know, make your own Discord, right? 
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Politics is something that should be encouraged as healthy discussion and or debate. with that in mind however look at your audience and tell me honestly that there would be healthy discussion and or debate instead of "no you're fucking stupid you libtard cuck" "i bet you suck trumps dick too". While I am all for discussing politics in a proper way, I don't see that in really any gaming community save for oddly specific communities I used to play in. (=]H[= back in the Project Reality for BF2 Days where members had to be verified as 21 and above and go through heavy in game and ventrillo scrutiny is one that comes to mind)
 
for proof why politics is not a thing that should ever happen in xG, read the above posts from brady frosty and lan

+1 I wanna destroy liberal furries

A community is the people, so whether intentional or not, you are calling the community shitty.
I wish you luck in future endeavours but realize that while a few people have slighted you, you have slighted people here quite a bit too