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LOL jesus Christ what a bunch of children. You know when someone like me says something everyone gets a bit mad but when you see what other shit posts no one does anything. and don't bring up the whole "b-b-b-b-b-but you're staff" because that doesn't change anyone who they are especially if they do their job well. Grow a second skin for gods sakes and don't take everything you see on the internet so seriously because i'm not gonna change from this member abuse thread because some kids are QQing because i called them a name. Also keep in mind forge that was directed at you because you insulted 4 members within the your little shit fight with insane. So don't act all innocent. As you can see with the Rotten russian man. It was supposed to be a 1 week ban and i didn't realize it fucked up Russian was disrespecting multiple players as he is a little kid on Relms. he proceeded to call a few other kids retarded and that his items were worth more than what they are. Space was another one who was spamming on and on about selling a "strange scattergun" over and over again. and you know what's funny @Maymalays YOU were the one who called me up at 1 am to come and get them and i did and you LAUGHED when i put that reason. so when you put this up now shows that you only care when something happens to you. Also most of these only come up since you're upset your friend didn't get unbanned. Pepper was mic spamming incredibly loud (he was never on the server) and the next Aprizim was another account of his and he comes on mic spamming again. if people are that butt mad because i put dumb reason names but can remember what happend then i really feel sorry for you kids. Green monstas was another person who from a trade decided to be a real shit head by going off on when people's trades weren't up to standards. After him insulting me and a few other i muted him and then proceeded to spam in chat admin abuse. Keep in mind these people who are banned are not regulars and have only appeared on the server once to break a number of rules. With dark spy, dark spy got up in all pissy because i kept body shooting him and after he got upset and threw a hissy fit he proceeded to mute me. Also Adam, the fact of the matter is, you honestly don't know the servers. i never said i owned the servers, i said that i helped elevate the server into what it is today, with new moderators and admins, new maps plugins and so on. Keep in mind adam was just upset because i muted him for screaming into his mic and because i didn't have tags on (oh lawdy lawdy call the police) he called in multiple admins on who pretty much said. jesus shut the fuck up. Also the ponyboy thread had no indication of disrespect at all? where the fuck does this come from at all? i gave clear evidence on why he shouldn't be unbanned. Barm you don't know shit about the server because you are never on it. Especially before i got TF2 mod. Also swift i used the same damn words as everyone else on the server so why is it you get more pissy when i use them and others don't? good job bringing that up. also origins, that's pretty funny that you want me demoted for things in the thread when you get just as mad as me when for example, denied Hachi the right to do a raffle for no reason and then proceed to bitch out for 10 minutes for literally no reason and then kick yourself. Also people keep bringing up this is a member protest. Why do you keep bringing up admin problems from what i did? that doesn't make any sense there for isn't valid. Also origins keep in mind that EVERY single person in pokemon trade is upset with you, so why are people not saying they would support you in anyway out of fear? maybe it's cause your shit at your job and you're just like me if you want to put it that way. "muh disrespect doe" . people bringing up the ponyboy thing, we had a conversation about what was going on with the ban protest in a conversation and we had an actual civil conversation. http://puu.sh/9wd4R/1fade9218c.png <----- here you can see he insults and threatens me about not unbanning ponyboy. also why are people ignoring the fact that i was actually nice to him? http://puu.sh/9wdah/634c967f48.png http://puu.sh/9wdcR/e6541b54d2.png http://puu.sh/9wdfa/78b04de7d5.png no here are some invalid ban reason if that is even a thing lol. http://puu.sh/9wdi9/f3eb8a68ae.png http://puu.sh/9wdow/cd72e170da.png http://puu.sh/9wdsF/87a09a682d.png http://puu.sh/9wduv/27f7ce4257.png

Also i wanna again go on the record that most of the disrespect was actually encouraged by @Maymalays. When we were on the servers he would generally go "HERE WE GO AGAIN" and say "i hope vector goes on his rant" So where does all this HE'S AN ASS HOLE come from? i can test that every single person on gaming history knows maymalays did this and infact, actually joined in on the fun. Also don't deny it maymalays because you did the same exact shit as i did and the only reason why you are actually saying something now is because YOU are now the one who is feeling he is being attacked. Why does everyone assume now people who support me are afraid of me? How come it's not because maybe they actually like me? Couldn't that be considered disrespect? Disrespect is the most retarded rule with the largest grey area because what is disrespectful to him might not be disrespectful to her. There is so much "disrespect" and "Shit posting" that most of the time it doesn't get handled but when someone who has powers says something it's a crisis. What about rabid? no one does shit about rabid because "he is just rabid" fucking lol. Or when other members call others retarded for not going on with what they think. Also keep in mind the date. i LOVE how this thread is posted the same day as promo-demo. Get some fresh air kids and be sure to go to your parents whenever someone says something bad to you on the internet.

For the third time, there is NO valid reason to disrespect

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Improper ban reasons =/= reason to remove membership allchat abuse =/= reason to remove membership two people complaining about vector =/= reason to remove membership However, it is pretty clear that vector is taking the disrespect too far. Staff members are supposed to be mature and (relatively) indifferent in pretty much every situation. Vector's behavior as of recently does not reflect the behavior that should be practiced at all times by all of our staff members. There is no situation in which it is justified for a staff member to use their powers to disrespect any player, or really to disrespect in general. That being said, this is not an abuse report. While I think that Vector should face a warning and/or another form of repercussion for his actions, I do not see any reason to remove his membership. @Gawd @Hidingmaster @ThePenguin @Nomulous please leave your thoughts below. ~still closed

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He doesn't keep the server alive on his own. Also liking forge isn't an xG rule (obviously), but the key is how you handle your views towards other people. Coming right out and telling someone to kill themselves because "no one likes them" is not mature and not acceptable.

Due to the excessive spamming, this thread is getting a temporary close. Once I and the other CL's( @Hidden-- er @Hidingmaster @Gawd @ThePenguin) finish reading this thread, which will most likely take 1-2 eons, a decision will be made. Is it really too much to ask for one goddamn thread that doesn't get spammed into oblivion? ~(temporarily) closed

-1 I've known vector for quite some time. #twerk 4 jesus. He's a pretty nice guy, but can be a dickhole just like everyone else. You people should know what it's like when there's the Minecraft map up and the 12 year olds just get magnetized to it. It's a pretty rough server to be on, but Vector's on there to keep it in line. I think maybe, he should add a reason for the ban. But when the bans are on just 11 year old squeakers who break the rules by just talking, I think it's perfectly acceptable that unknowing young ones who don't read the rules shouldn't need too much of a reason for a ban if the next thing they do after this is just go find a different minecraft map to play on. Vector has some wrongs, and some rights. But with the kids he's dealing with, I think it's okay to make a ban for autism to have a joke every now and then since he's the really active one on TGH

Btw Disrespecting Elaborated | Xeno Gamers thats what is considered disrespect (mostly) and, as i've said MULTIPLE TIMES there is NO valid reason for disrespect. It doesn't matter if he/she encouraged it, it doesn't matter if he/she deserved it, its still an immature and uncalled for way to handle a situation Is no one reading what I post?

Okay, I'd like to put this fairly simply. I personally would not want to see an admin/member of my division act that way towards my member base. I also know Vector is a well known admin, meaning most people set aside whatever disrespect he may do to other members because they're friends. I can easily tell most members are happy to stick with him, no matter what he does. It's just the fact if we'll allow one member to disrespect another member - especially when we know it's not being a rare occurrence. I don't like speaking for other's, but Vector's attitude has always been "It's just the forums," "He fucking deserved it," or something along that line. On an unrelated note... We do decline or minus one quite a few people from a member submission for being disrespectful or acting anything like this. But we never do it when they're actually in xG. Interesting. 0+/-

From what was posted here already, he disrespects when "people deserve it". I'm pretty sure I already covered this, but there is no valid reason for disrespect ESPECIALLY as a staff member, an admin at that. Disrespect really is just an immature way to handle a situation

$10 says that those -1 are afraid of getting backlash from Vector for not agreeing with him. $10 says that if it were you in this position he would throw you under the bus.

The reason we have ban reasons is to be able to go back and see WHY someone was banned. If I put "hi" for the reason of LQ's ban (CSGO Reference) then who's to say he ever had LQ Days? Who's to say he did anything wrong at all? When the time comes for a ban protest,from LQ, The only person who knows WHY the ban was made is me, the one who banned. Also, no one deserves disrespect. Disrespect is the immature way to handle a bad situation. There is no reason to disrespect ANYONE, which is why it is frowned upon and even bannable. Also, +/-0 for now, still watching tho I've talked to Vector and he's promised not to do it again . Closed Also, please keep this on topic (for the most part, being a good admin isn't very relevant) this IS a member protest, not an admin abuse report

Division: Team Fortress 2 Staff Name: [xG:A] Vector Staff's Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:40865099 Evidence: Assorted Evidence (Mixed with other stuff) located here and here. Further Information: @diabeetus @Nomulous @ThePenguin @Gawd @Hidingmaster @Vector

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Power-hungry asshole cunt ganjalords. @Docterlat_ :llama::llama::llama:

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You know what, if you said you were leaveing, why are you still here? Making suiside threats won't make anyone feel fucking sorry for you. Don't be like me and say your gunna do it and chicken out. You wanna die? Go ahead and die then. (Props to you if you get the reference :nerd:

> Says this thread is exploding his notifications > Is the one spamming the thread

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@AdamStoe98 Please dont start another flame war again.

But they're judging his actions! i would consider that the pages of the book, not the cover

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i may nopt be an official member, but i am on a shitton and he can be disrespectful,but he hardly, if ever, bans people without proper reason.

What about that extreme abuse (Yes, I said it, "Abuse", stop complaining) that happened a while back. Nothing was done about it and he was let off. How come this isn't happening for Vector? Why wouldn't he be allowed a second chance?

only comeback is "this isnt an abuse report" has no real evidence to support his opinion. wont give reasoning when presented with an actual argument for vector remaining a member. 10/10

Two months isn't that long of a time apparently, because I'm apparently still an asshole and havn't changed a bit, GG, No Re.

Vector is one of the most active members on the TGH server. He is always inforcing the rules and people dont listen so he has to do shit about it and if hes gone then there will be no admins to mute/kick/ban the asshole micspammers,chatspammers and dickheads etc we need him to stay in this clan-1

i know this isn't relevant whatsoever, but wow forge wow. fucking internet explorer.

@AdamStoe98 We have the reason "other" when we are unable to find an appropriate reason within the admin menu. Sometimes we have to go through the admin menu because a person has an untypeable name or because they have left the server. Also please don't start a flame war (again), calm down because others and myself don't want to read 4 pages of back and forth of you and another person reading flame war material. :coffee: @Moosty I do believe Vector has helped out a lot in populating Trade Gaming, but making your main argument that an admin helping repopulate a server makes them a good staff member really doesn't make sense. You can claim that he is a good member for helping populate servers but it does not equal to the same as being good staff members. @Hachi So if we want to make the servers fair then we can slay all reds on Jailbreak who decide to rebel or all blues who are being massive tools as warden (if that is the logic we want to have for xG). On the issue at hand, my vote is +1 for demotion and for membership to be stripped from Vector. He's a good staff member, it can't be denied that he can keep the peace. However, he can display some signs of arrogance and many have claimed (and myself have witnessed) that he can become very irrational and some of his bans have reasons that are not appropriate and/or invalid. Also if I recall he ordered some of our old staff members to do something and lost his sh!t when said staff member refused to do so. His display of extreme amounts of disrespect I have witnessed on the servers, in the bans list and heard from other user's accounts are not good signs of someone being a good member.

-1 when you essentially keep a server alive on your own and work hard to make a server what it is you can have fun with your job. The people he bans deserve it. They ARE breaking the rules.does he need to be such a dick about it? Obviously no, but vector is probably one of the better admins so it doesn't really matter. And he won't ban someone until they break the rules. Also, how is him making fun of you in shoutbox admin abuse? Is liking forge an xG rule now? Bring your concerns about his conduct on the servers here, your not having thick enough skin to take somebody not liking you isn't a bannable offense, stop whining, sorry your feelings were hurt. So sad.

Disagree with Vector, Get Banned

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Not his fault it's true doh... Jkbby Still fucking seeing dead people

it because of shit like this. People making fun of me because i put my feeling on a fucking thread. Screenshot by Lightshot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eS7Ctv_F4Q

lol He started it. but ok. If no one likes me thats fine.

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there is one staff member on because i RECOMMENDED THEM FOR ADMIN. the people who are staff now on gaming history were once regulars that i felt were dedicated enough to be moderator. these people include Maymalays (lol) Bonfire Kitty Salvador Red'sRegards Hachi and so on. You can ask any other member of xG and they will tell you there was a time where gaming history didn't have any moderators on. This was before you joined and before you got moderator. I'm not trying to take full credit but i helped get multiple regulars into xG: Moosty Kart Bonfire Kitty Salvador Kypari Starfish scrafty SanMittanz Chaos Dragon Heart Hojang Roaming Boneman Princess Dashie and so forth. Also penguin, i'm not saying it's right or he said she said, i'm saying that why is it when i say it it's a problem yet when people who are constant offenders do it and are not punished? and Don't bring up the staff shit because staff are not above people. Also no one made a thread about this before. The closes thing that did was gorilla and that was resolved and even then it was from misunderstandings and problems. there was no vector was mean to me!!

Honestly i'm pretty active on the Trade Gaming History and I've seen Vector a lot on there. but I'm not taking sides so I'm not going to say something (• ε •)

I believe I'm the only one on Game History all the time that is mad at this entire thread.

look at ponyboys ban protest. im obviously afraid of backlash from vector i would never disagree with him at all vector is love vector is life 10/10. and after i disagreed with vector? he wasnt even upset with me. he knows its a fucking game. we are friends, he wouldnt throw me under the bus. you obviously dont know him at all. all the more reason for a warning.

I've decided I will +1 for some kind of punishment/warning for reasons stated previously

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