hongkongatron

Cya hick

Nothing to big I’m gonna continue my current activity (which isn’t much) but I am looking at pursuing other opportunities so I’m leaving member role. If servers become active or I see a reason in re applying I might. 

But I didn't return yet 🤔

When I play heavy weapons guy 😎

who

The CSGO legend is back, and I can say since my departure the server has fucking died. I love you all.

















Fuck TF2 and anyone that likes it remotely. ❤️

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this post reads like a ben shapiro tweet
ok serious face now
In keeping with this thread's apparent theme of confusion, I'll respond to it in no particular order (which is, to say, I will do the exact opposite of that and respond to it in order (which is not a confusing action, just stupid)). 
Let me start by saying that for a long time now, xG has been a very non-commercial, non-mainstream, mostly player-dictated community that really resembles a big friend group more than anything else. To apply a scale befitting large-scale servers to a locally oriented entity like xG is already hardly appropriate. Let me include the shoehorned food analogy by saying that it would be like comparing McDonalds to a ma and pa diner-- one is name-brand, oriented entirely on attracting new customers because it has competition, while the other knows everyone's face and who they are. xG has no competition, as it maintains its position as a uniquely tight-knit community with no particular focus, which hasn't been in massive demand in general these days, instead just doing whatever people want. This leads into my second bit.
Again, it's not appropriate to judge xG now with the same standards you could have judged it with 3 or 4 years ago; communities change, for better or for worse. We don't advertise largely because we believe it would be falling on deaf ears. We have a specific niche community and we stick to it, and in addition to this, the larger servers of our community are often games that would result in very little backing if we advertised for them. As for population, it wanes on and off as time goes on, but largely, xG TF2 is self sufficient. It requires very little from the people who manage and play it other than the necessary presence of staff to keep things chill, and higherups to maintain it, but generally it's in the hands of the players. It's a simple and straightforwards rationale.
This is a valid assumption. I do not speak for other higherups, but I've been absent for several weeks now, initially due to a bad case of the flu, and later due to an increased focus on life. As for the rest, see what I said above. 
yikes bro
In my role as a higherup of xG, I try to interpret and act on the current state of my division to the best of my ability. This also involves speaking on behalf of the community as a mouthpiece of sorts. I have not claimed, nor do I believe that the presence of school starting back up is solely, or even partly, responsible for the waning population of TF2, or any division in xG. We instead acknowledge that, and again, it is based largely on the interests of the players, and so it is best to give the players as much of a hand in this as possible. As proof of this, in accordance with the changing interests of TF2, the TF2 populate role was created for that very reason, to let players more easily control the population in a more "organic" fashion rather, than trying to force population at a time when it would garner little interest, which became the main issue in population events. It was not under my management that other servers died, and what I do now I do in the pursuit of maintaining the population and playerbase that is left. To claim that we care little for the servers is contradictory to your actions of exploiting the trust xG placed in you by abusing what powers you had left that had accidentally not been removed.
(the discord is almost entirely what xG's communication is based off of now lol, the forums are pretty heavy handed, for want of a better platform, when lots of things can just be posted in announcements there instead)

people have probably noticed that i've been pretty inactive
short story short, i'm focusing on life a lot more as of recently and have time only for discord, hopefully i can be active again soon but it might be another week or so, it won't be forever tho

it is just like caleb said in his thread omg........ it all makes sense now...... grape killed tf2. yup.

people have probably noticed that i've been pretty inactive
short story short, i'm focusing on life a lot more as of recently and have time only for discord, hopefully i can be active again soon but it might be another week or so, it won't be forever tho

I decided to stew on this post for a bit before responding, and am glad that I did. I was not exactly sure how I would articulate my point that smaller, more tight knit communities (of which xG is not the only one) should not be compared to the larger ones that essentially run a(n) business/advanced daycare. As someone who was around in 2011/2012, to be honest I like the direction things have gone community wise. There is less drama, everyone, including the higherups, are more chill. Yeah, the servers are not popping 24/7 (at least for CS) like they were back in the day, but a large part of that is the diverse interest in games our community plays together. 

That being said, if we are speaking in terms of pure server population, then yeah a good chunk of what you said is true. There is definitely a lot of truth in the statement that higherups should try to run more pop events and communicate a bit better. But just to go over something important:
The vast majority of higherups now-a-days are 21+, have full time/part time jobs/are in college (or a combination), and just in general have to juggle adult life with online responsibilities. I will be the first to admit that I have not gotten on the servers as much as I should. But to paint with such a broad brush, that 'if you have an active adult life you should not be in a position of power' is a bit nonsensical. Maybe that was not your point and you did not word your argument very well, but that is essentially how it read to me.
 
This point is kind of muddied just solely on the point that discord is where most discussion takes place now. Back when we used teamspeak, and any really meaningful discussion pretty much had to occur on the forums, than this would be a good point. But now there are so many avenues for communication, that I would hardly call the forums the place communities get together.
 
My understanding is that there is no reason to post promo demos unless there is actually something happening in that regard. So instead of just forcing it out, it is better to wait for some actual substance before posting it. 
 
So yeah. Despite what I wrote above, there is definitely some truth and rather reasonable criticism to your post. There is definitely more that we could be doing to help the servers.

That was where I was going to leave it, till I realized I never addressed your last paragraph, which is a bit... much.
 
I honestly have no idea what this is even referencing. If you have examples of us willingly and intentionally ignoring stuff, than that would have been nice to reference.
 
No response to the meaningless excuse-making in the first half of this, but just to reiterate something. xG, as a community, is not dying. If you want to make the statement the servers are dead/dying, that is perfectly reasonable, but as the community currently stands the servers are more an extension of the community, not the core of it.
 
This is where it gets weirder. Under what pretext would you assume that you would be banned for making this? To me, this seems like a desperate attempt to seem like your 'sticking it to the man regardless of the consequences' which is pretty weird considering none of the higherups would ban you for posting criticism. Whatever your intention was with this remark, it was severely out of place.
 
I don't really care about the 'harsh' language, as if you feel that is how you want to get your point across, then go for it. But at any rate, your entire post, which absolutely did have some helpful and meaningful criticism got completely derailed by this final paragraph, which reads like a shitpost. I don't even see a point in its inclusion, but I digress.

I have no personal issue with you, and wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors. If you ever do decide to return, you will be welcome.
 
tl;dr xG is a community that has evolved with its playerbase. It is not dying, though we could be doing more to help server pop.

this post reads like a ben shapiro tweet
ok serious face now
In keeping with this thread's apparent theme of confusion, I'll respond to it in no particular order (which is, to say, I will do the exact opposite of that and respond to it in order (which is not a confusing action, just stupid)). 
Let me start by saying that for a long time now, xG has been a very non-commercial, non-mainstream, mostly player-dictated community that really resembles a big friend group more than anything else. To apply a scale befitting large-scale servers to a locally oriented entity like xG is already hardly appropriate. Let me include the shoehorned food analogy by saying that it would be like comparing McDonalds to a ma and pa diner-- one is name-brand, oriented entirely on attracting new customers because it has competition, while the other knows everyone's face and who they are. xG has no competition, as it maintains its position as a uniquely tight-knit community with no particular focus, which hasn't been in massive demand in general these days, instead just doing whatever people want. This leads into my second bit.
Again, it's not appropriate to judge xG now with the same standards you could have judged it with 3 or 4 years ago; communities change, for better or for worse. We don't advertise largely because we believe it would be falling on deaf ears. We have a specific niche community and we stick to it, and in addition to this, the larger servers of our community are often games that would result in very little backing if we advertised for them. As for population, it wanes on and off as time goes on, but largely, xG TF2 is self sufficient. It requires very little from the people who manage and play it other than the necessary presence of staff to keep things chill, and higherups to maintain it, but generally it's in the hands of the players. It's a simple and straightforwards rationale.
This is a valid assumption. I do not speak for other higherups, but I've been absent for several weeks now, initially due to a bad case of the flu, and later due to an increased focus on life. As for the rest, see what I said above. 
yikes bro
In my role as a higherup of xG, I try to interpret and act on the current state of my division to the best of my ability. This also involves speaking on behalf of the community as a mouthpiece of sorts. I have not claimed, nor do I believe that the presence of school starting back up is solely, or even partly, responsible for the waning population of TF2, or any division in xG. We instead acknowledge that, and again, it is based largely on the interests of the players, and so it is best to give the players as much of a hand in this as possible. As proof of this, in accordance with the changing interests of TF2, the TF2 populate role was created for that very reason, to let players more easily control the population in a more "organic" fashion rather, than trying to force population at a time when it would garner little interest, which became the main issue in population events. It was not under my management that other servers died, and what I do now I do in the pursuit of maintaining the population and playerbase that is left. To claim that we care little for the servers is contradictory to your actions of exploiting the trust xG placed in you by abusing what powers you had left that had accidentally not been removed.
(the discord is almost entirely what xG's communication is based off of now lol, the forums are pretty heavy handed, for want of a better platform, when lots of things can just be posted in announcements there instead)

-1 never exists for more than 5 seconds at a time and always bottomfrags

+1, would be a good test of his knowledge of the rules (which I already have faith in), and would make a good moderator
please just stop using tenor gifs plea

He's a legit boomer and mentally retarded

As long as your in the game, i'll never bottom frag :') 
You say this, and yet haven't offered a game to play, Lets grind classic wow. 
And in my defense, If I had discord mod I would of been able to punish him myself 😠
 

Division
Discord In-Game Name
Yung Geno Identity
Genocide#0818 Position
Moderator Time Active on Servers
Almost 2 years Information Hey there, you know I had to do it to em, I've been trying to get discord mod since 'Nam man, it's really starting to take a toll on me, plus virr made me devote my life to the fursona of a kangaroo and told me if I did I could become discord mod. Even though I hate furries, things must be done.
 OwO pls OwO 
On a serious note, I actually am active and always around if anybody needs any help. I'm not toxic and truthfully quite helpful even though some of the cozy boys are mean ;_; (Josh) - I'd say I'm a pretty good admin and I've been seriously upset because I don't have anything to admin since nobody ever wants to hop on jb/mg/etc anymore with me. I just want to make xG great again.
Plus we also need more diversity and I'm black so you know that's a +1 
I have read the staff submission rules and meet the requirements for the division I'm applying for.
Yes

+1 even though he called me a retard
active, knows what he’s doing, and has been staff before with no issues

+1 at least its better than tuna and baggel

you are already a fucking division leader

Just posting despite it's locked, I am also +1 just for reference and as Elcark said, we trust you so it's all good 🙂

 

Just unban him.
I really do understand wanting to get a hand wave from someone higher up before doing something you're unsure of but this really is supposed to be your guy's decision to make @hongkongatron @DiaperHyperWolf. You wouldn't have the positions you do if they didn't trust you to act independently. Even then, you'd have to be pretty new around here to assume aegean wouldn't be fine with this or to not have seen people get unbanned out of basic forgiveness after long time periods before.
Just a few quick examples if you're really still unsure yourselves-
https://xenogamers.com/topic/24386-coolduck/#
https://xenogamers.com/topic/22901-gamepony-team-fortress-2/
https://xenogamers.com/topic/24463-cliimate/