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"The average key price a key is sold for on source-op is around 1.90$, give or take a few cents. That is about $38.00 for the maximum donation. It's stupid high, and almost out of reach for any given player. I guarantee you will see a maximum of one or two of these types of donations, if any at all." So if there's only one or two that means.. Starfishprime69, FoRgE, Slinkerton, Izanagi, BelloWaldi, Kypari, Egossi, Matsi, Bach, Gugomo, Didn't donate within the first few weeks and never have donated which is incorrect. This isn't even a full list but it's what I have. "but recently I feel we have drifted away from that and focused too much on money" What.. Perhaps you didn't notice but the servers have been struggling to get money so they can be hosted, The money goes to the servers so it can continue to stay online, The donations are helping far more than you think.

I strongly disagree with you on the donation stuff... 20 keys for the highest level isn't "too much" and for people who cant afford that they can get a lower tier, and gradually upgrade over time... I think it will be stupid to lower the prices because then everyone will have it and it wont be worth having. "focused too much on money" LOLWUT?! You obviously have never been in a clan that makes you pay per month to have admin! xG is as far from focused on money as a gaming community can be.... and if you think that offering bonus stuff for donations is focused on money than you should take the time to figure out how much it costs to run all the servers that xG has...

Hello, for most of you that know me, I'm back! For those that do not, I used to run the servers for around a year before @Nomulous, when I left to focus more on high school in order to get into the college I wanted to. I'm back, and I'm here to post my thoughts on changes that need to occur in order to solve the issue of money as well as making players stay on our servers. Take everything you see with a grain of salt, this is simply one man's opinions. New Servers The new servers, such as Freak Fortress 2 and Wario Ware are great servers, but there's much work needed to be done. In order to limit the amount of criticism taken from an unfinished server, I recommend either putting a password on the server and set a deadline for completion, such as next week Monday, or putting up advertisements stating the server is in Beta. Many plugins are missing on Freak Fortress, and I understand bosses may always be added, but there are a few basic plugins missing, such as [TF2] The Amplifier - AlliedModders [TF2]TauntCrits - AlliedModders And other fixes, such as Goomba Stomp killing hale in 1 shot These plugin need to be added sooner than later, and plenty of randoms have already joined the server, but have left either due to boredom or lack of originality. Many servers have a sticking feature, something that helps people come back. We have one. It's called hub. Hub Plugin Hub is the main feature of our servers, and after nearly two years of false promises, it's here on TF2. On some of the servers. And you can only buy some stuff on some servers. This needs to be fixed immediately. This should be the number one priority if you're worried about population. Having certain parts work on some parts here and there doesn't cut it. It needs to work on all servers in order to be successful. Please fix this issue by getting everything on all servers, especially the popular ones. Donations Nearly every single community accepts donations of some kind. Some communities have more effective means than others. The current donation system is horrid, with little explanation given to each tier. By that, I mean there's no way to learn what each tier gives you without going directly on the forums and searching for it, which puts off a lot of people. The current prices are also high. The top donation is 20 keys. The average key price a key is sold for on source-op is around 1.90$, give or take a few cents. That is about $38.00 for the maximum donation. It's stupid high, and almost out of reach for any given player. I guarantee you will see a maximum of one or two of these types of donations, if any at all. What I recommend doing instead is putting all donation features on hub, like colorme, skeleton, and other plugins on the hub for a certain price, and change it back to the old system, where donations give you a certain number of hub credits. 1 key or 20 keys will give hub credits. Also, accepting monetary donations would be better as well. Here's a sample conversion chart. 1$ = 1,000 Credits 1 Key = 1,750 Credits 10$ = 12,500 Credits 10 Keys = 20,000 Credits and so on.... Then, make certain benefits, such as skeleton cost 2,500 credits, maybe more or less. This way it is still reachable for certain members that are active on the servers, but not too ridiculously expensive for those that wish to donate can't purchase in one go. Admin Behavior The strictness of certain admins has come to my attention recently. An admin is somebody who is supposed to set an example and punish those who break server rules, not to do what ever they please and ban those who offend them with the reason "admin disrespect." The order goes gag, kick, ban, not an immediate ban for one comment. I recently was banned for making a comment, no warning, or gag, not even a kick. SO please, if an admin is handing out bans for all the wrong reasons, such as to protect their ego, please discuss this with them. Many admins feel they may run rampant, and I understand that they are allowed more freedom, but banning and kicking without warning is a major issue that needs to be confronted. Closing Thoughts Xeno Gamers has always been a community that provides fun for those that wish to find it, but recently I feel we have drifted away from that and focused too much on money, and less on fun. We need to find at least a balance of those two, in order to prevent the community from collapsing on itself. Thanks for reading.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRVns0STtZk

Hate to double post but isn't mc/mafia another clan not postive but probably should be looked into

Basic Donator Anyone can achieve the basic Donator status via donating 5 Keys or 9000 credits. Basic Donators will have this tag in there username while they are on a server. [b-Don] Being a basic Donator gives you access to the following commands. !colorme {color} Dropbox - colorme.jpg Use this to change your player model tint. Available Colors: random normal black red green blue yellow purple cyan orange pink olive lime violet lightblue silver chocolate saddlebrown indigo ghostwhite thistle aliceblue steelblue teal gold tan tomato !rocketme Dropbox - evilrocket1.jpg Dropbox - evilrocket2.jpg Use this to launch yourself into the air and explode(suicide) !glowme Dropbox - glowme.jpg Use this enable glowing circle (similar to a engy portal glow) above your head, colored dependent on team red/blue !nofallme Toggle if you take fall dmg. !stunme {duration} Dropbox - stunme.jpg Stun yourself for the defined amount of time !gstunme {duration} Dropbox - gstunme.jpg Stun yourself for the defined amount of time as if scared by a HHH ("YIKES" appeared above your head) !bonkme {duration} Dropbox - bonkme.jpg Stun yourself for the defined amount of time as if hit by a sandman ball !evilvisionme Dropbox - evilvisionme.jpg Similar to drugged, your vision does a weird zoomed PoV like thing... !timebombme Dropbox - timebombme.jpg Enable a timebomb on yourself (10 second countdown and then you suicide *explode*) !burnme {duration} Dropbox - burnme.jpg Catch yourself on fire for the defined time !freezeme {duration} Dropbox - freezeme.jpg Freeze yourself in place for the defined time !drugme Dropbox - drugme.jpg Toggle drugs on yourself causing your screen to randomly change tint and tilt And 1000 Hub credits! Upgraded Donator Anyone can achieve the Upgraded Donator status via donating 8 keys or 124600 credits. Upgraded Donators will have this tag in there username while they are on a server. [u-Don] Being a Upgraded Donator gives you access to the following commands. !kson {amount} Dropbox - kson.jpg Sets the number shown as your killstreak in the scoreboard !freezebombme {0/1} Same as freezeme but with a 10 sec countdown first !firebombme {0/1} Same as burnme but with a 10 sec countdown first !eviltrailme Dropbox - eviltrailme.jpg Sets a fire and smoke like trail on you at about your shoulder !fart Makes you make fart noises randomly along with random chat messages [sM] ᵡᴳḽᴹ Matsi fed ᵡᴳḽᴹ Matsi a fat Burrito! ᵡᴳḽᴹ Matsi: Phew! I think I have sprung a leak! ᵡᴳḽᴹ Matsi: Gah! That one didn't even smell! ᵡᴳḽᴹ Matsi: Chewy...I think I could eat that one! [sM] ᵡᴳḽᴹ Matsi gave ᵡᴳḽᴹ Matsi some Pepto Bismol! !firearrows Your arrows cause enemies to light on fire/burn !resizeheadme Known not working !resizeme Dropbox - resizemesmall.jpg Dropbox - resizemelarge.jpg Allows you to resize your player model larger or smaller !skeleton @me (ONLY FOR SNIPER!) Dropbox - skeleton.jpg Turns you into a skeleton !robot @me Dropbox - robot.jpg Turns you into a robot !gimme {weapon index} For now !outlineme Dropbox - outlineme.jpg Toggles player outlines (outlines that allow players to basically see your health based on their color: green/yellow/red) And 3000 Hub credits! Super Donator Anyone can achieve the Super Donator status via donating 15 keys or 27000 credits. Super Donators will have this tag in there username while they are on a server. [s-Don] Being a Super Donator gives you access to the following commands. !Unusual Weapons only Dropbox - unusual.jpg Lets you add "unusual" effects to your weapons !saxxy Dropbox - saxxy.jpg Gives you saxxy as melee weapon !gpan Dropbox - gpan.jpg Gives you golden pan as melee weapon !gwrench Dropbox - gwrench.jpg Gives you golden wrench as melee weapon !vote Allows you to make a vote usage: !vote "this is the question" "option 1" "option 2" "option 3" "option 4" "option 5" if no options listed it will default to yes or no for the options !powerplay (Crits and godmode) Dropbox - powerplay.jpg Makes you glow like an uber, and on fire.... gives you crits and godmode holyarrows Is constantly on! Dropbox - holy arrows.jpg Yellowish glow to your arrows AKA "sunbeam" !raffle Used to perform a raffle(The server will automatically pick someone from the added names) !raffle_assign Used to add names to the raffle (targeting is like any other admin cmds, @all would add everyone tot he raffle) !raffle_remove Used to remove names from the raffle (targeting is like any other admin cmds, @all would add everyone tot he raffle) !raffle_cancel Removes everyone from the raffle !raffle_list Lists all the names currently added to the raffle !spawnhatman Spawns Horseless Headless Horsemann at your crosshairs !spawneyeboss Spawns Monoculus at your crosshairs !spawnmerasmus Spawns Merasmus at your crosshairs !spawnskele Spawns a skeleton at your crosshairs !slayhatman Slays all HHH !slayeyeboss Slays all Monoculus !slaymerasmus Slays all Merasmus !slayskele Slays all skeles !buildingcolors Dropbox - buildingcolors.jpg Opens menu for you to choose a color to have all your building be tinted in !shield [Trade Servers Only] !shield2 [Trade Servers Only] !betheghost Dropbox - betheghost.jpg Turns you into a ghost (right click to disappear/appear and hold left click to pass through walls) Use !vote before spawning any of the bosses. The vote must have 70% wanting the boss to be spawned. And 10000 credits! Uber Donator Anyone can achieve the Uber Donator status via donating 20 keys or 36000 credits. Uber Donators will have this tag in there username while they are on a server. [uber-Don] Being a Uber Donator gives you access to the following commands. [Trade Servers Only] !noclip @me Dropbox - noclip.jpg Toggle noclip on yourself, allowing you to fly around and pass through objects !makemegift (If you use this in an objective gamemode, do not abuse the god mod attached to it) Dropbox - makemegift.jpg Turn into a giant rotating present !fakegift (NOT ALLOWED ON JB SERVERS) Dropbox - fakegift.jpg Spawn an ammo box !bemerasmus @me Dropbox - bemerasmus.jpg Turn into Merasmus (Jarate=bomb, press reload to pull out bombinomicon and spawn a bunch of bombs in all directions from you) !behhh Dropbox - behhh.jpg Turn into Horseless Headless Horsemann (use "call for medic" to make a *BOO* taunt) !hsay {message} Dropbox - hsay.jpg Message to all players shown as a "hint" at the bottom of the screen !tsay {message} Dropbox - tsay.jpg Message to all players shown as a "title" in the top left corner of the screen !csay {message} Dropbox - csay.jpg Message to all players shown as "console" in the center of the screen !msay{message} Dropbox - msay.jpg Message to all players shown as "menu" to the left (requires player to press 0 to close) To be added at a later date. And 13000 Credits!

I think it's @Egossi with his $726 USD backpack Link - Egossi's Backpack - backpack.tf

-1 Not even a member. Try again. As legend said, you don't even know most of the rules yet.

I hate all you guys

why did no one say "i will miss you" or any good things just "bye" well im gonna be a cool and be like mane we had some fun times ill miss u alot u were a great xg member have fun is life and dont kill any one or your self ;)

Not sure if I am allowed to bump, but I would really like to be in xG again :love:

Tell that to Kittylicious. #ModIn1Week

@Rhododendron Here's a word document with the entire post (i copied it there so i had a copy in case something bad happened when i tried to post it lolol) Dropbox - guide.rtf The thread title was the same as it is now: "Donator Perks Guide"

Let me know what you think? Or if you see any typos/errors. #sticky?

it was @African before he cashed out. @Scootaloo is the richest on my list then bonfire then me, this friends list shit. The Punisher's Backpack - backpack.tf People's backpack over $500 dollars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMFJBd40Awo

You realize gangplank was made by RIOT games? He was just converted into a boss on tf2

Egossi left xg, and i have a better bp than him anyway Link ᵪɢ:ᴀ | Bonfire Centipede's Backpack - backpack.tf

You guys are taking the donation suggestion the wrong way, and I agree with Brian on it. Having bundles costing so much makes it seem unattainable for most players, and it makes people think it's not worth staying on the server for. However, if the hub system was choice over bundle (*cough*csgo hub system *cough*) I feel more people would want to stay and grind for those credits, instead of seeing a goal as high as uber donator status, even though they may only like one or two of the benefits that come with it. Also, once you get that uber bundle, what reason is there for a regular to stay on the server other than using those perks for a day or two? With the individual perk system, theres more reason for those regulars to want to play on the server, it gives a sort of goal for players to strive towards. There really is no reason to be upset over a suggesion :(

So that makes the money we spent to not only supply xG with server money but it also means the powers we were given because of it are suddenly worth shit all? That's stupid as hell, I like the donation powers as they are, they're fun to mess around with and have a good time, taking that away and giving everyone the ability to use the perks practically is just scamming the Uber Donators out of the perks they spent so much for. What's the point in donating if all the perks are suddenly available on hub for just a few days grinding of credits?

#DeletingThatDoublePost ;-;

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It's not even for the powers. As Forge mentioned, it's for the servers and xG as a whole. I enjoy playing on the servers and hence why I even applied with xG in the first place. If I pay a small fee to assist them to stay up? I'm down.

I like monstercat music and knife party (if you can't tell by my name it's just 2 knife party songs together) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBJk0Tq3JDU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_lLV669mLQ

I remember when you made a freekilling day.. It all Happened so long ago so I won't -.1 you. Even though you're very active and the server, I think you're not mature enough to join. You also don't know the rules. A 7/10 M 3/10

I have a couple of ideas: MeM SammyClassicSonicFan Swag lord 696969 matthewbt Origins .3. Bill NYE Mass Freekiller (Gibus Pyrovision pyro) Grandpa Sniper Hitler Shrek

who is this kid?

-1 Thats what you call me egossi and i dont make ban request for you And idc that forge calls me a fag a homosexual or a dickbag i still love him <3 just take a hit and dont act like snips @Snipes

@Bonk he has a mic and uses it all the time.

Sorry lads, internet is the shits and didn't check forums as often as I should. Egossi, You've always been rude, unpleasant, and just a terrible person overall. At first I had patience with you, yes. As a staff I need to. The first day you got into xG (which you were too young to join before if I understand right) I was opposed to it. Sure as an xG staff member I need to respect people. But as an xG member you should've done the same. I'll admit, most times recently, yes I have been irritable in regards to you. But as a human being I can only take so much before I snap and lose my patience. Do I deserve a demotion for it? No. Maybe I need to not take it so seriously but I know for a fact most people don't like you being in the servers from how god damn unpleasant you are to talk to. Egossi this thread proves my point of you being childish and irritable and frankly I still don't know why you continue. For a long time you and I have had spats. Yes. Everyone knows this. But to file a demo AFTER you left xG to try and spite me? As previously said. Childish. This is all I have to say, do what you will #204out

Only spawn things on a freeday + vote i say.

How about this

it would be me if I was lucky but wasting around 100 keys on unboxing and only getting one unusual worth 1.2 buds has made me only have what I have now. Also the fact I gave most of my stranges I got from unboxing away instead of selling them. Also doing 60+ mvm tours and only getting one aussie. I spent way more on TF2 than my backpack worth (n)

I don't get why you're "upset" about the system, It's fine and it has been working fine since it came out, There's nothing wrong with the Donation System and it does not need changing.

It be cool if he killed someone and just kept saying LIEK SONIC LIEK SONIC or STOP DENYING MY AGE

-1 i didn't enjoy my time playing the game. gl tho m8y

@BelloWaldi @Slink @Mr.Fink Bye sweggilisious people.

@Egossi bye :thinking:

Cows/Ribbit will be unbanned due to insufficient evidence, along with this new rules. Which I like. Any evidence found in the future, record the demo of the player - whether they're in POV or 3rd person of them. Thank you, and #closed #Unbanned