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I disagree, I think he should be banned to prevent anyone that plays on xG from getting scammed, there's no reason to allow him into our servers or community. +1 I do not think that the location of the scam should matter since technically they don't really ever happen on the servers anyways, but via steam/steamfriends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Sxv-sUYtM

I rather do this: if they are a known scammer and they join the trade server, they get the [scammer] tag and they also get permanently muted/gagged.

All I'm saying is that if it were my servers, known scammers wouldn't be allowed in. Period. Sorry @Kart, nothing personal. You're a great guy, but even though some get marked for a small mistake, many get marked for large ones. I'd rather be safe than sorry. =( OFC, that's an extreme measure to take, and it'd be foolish to do it when our servers are used to us never having such restrictions. I DO however like the idea of having a tag for scammers.

Just gonna put this out there: SteamRep doesn't fuck around. If they even get a whiff of a server allowing known high-level scammers float about in their servers, they can and will mark said server. I'm pretty sure we DON'T want that, as it'd be counter-productive to what we are trying to do, regardless if people actually trade on our servers or not. =/

KEEP THIS THREAD CIVILIZED THANK YOU. Alright so there are rumors going around saying that i scammed @Kart. This is completely false and before you press judgement, let me tell you the story. There was an update in which Unusual Taunts came out. these were going for a lot of money at the time (as a lot of unusuals do but most went for a lot more because of hype). Kart came into the server (Trade Gaming History) very excited telling everyone that he unboxed an unusual Conga (The MOST valuable taunt and saught after taunt) after awhile he was using the taunt and it was fun. He then asked me to broker it for him. (this was around the time i was getting my brokering service off the ground.) bro·ker ˈbrōkər/ noun 1. a person who buys and sells goods or assets for others. synonyms: dealer, agent; More verb 1. arrange or negotiate (a settlement, deal, or plan). "fighting continued despite attempts to broker a ceasefire" synonyms: arrange, organize, orchestrate, work out, settle, clinch, bring about he asked if i could broker it for him. Seeing as he was a good friend i obviously said yes. We agreed to a settlement of half and half because the selling of an unusual with no price and nothing else of info would be hard to sell. (which he refutes to this day). (inventory of the unusual in my backpack: Eazy-V's Backpack - backpack.tf So very soon later i was able to sell it for 9 buds and i took half (4.5 buds) and gave the rest to kart which he then became upset with him saying he didn't agree to the terms and said he didn't expect me to take so much even though we agreed to half (today he told everyone i scammed him and proceeded to back track and said he didn't think i would take ANYTHING: http://puu.sh/i4t7d/0a0ec9ff83.png) after that we went back and forth and then he proceeded to tell me that he needed to give his friend a portion of the profit since he gave his friend gave him the key he then proceeded to give the other friend 2 buds, he knows this friend in real life so the trust between them is there (which would be later been proved as false in the evidence that will provided later in this thread). after a bunch of insults between both parts and fights on the server. Eventually kart and i rekindled our friendship and the topic was dropped. Later a month later, kart proceeded to talk to the server again and teamspeak about the same situation. I'm told from another user that Kart did not infact unbox the unusual but was actually brokering for a friend. (proof he never unboxed it: History - backpack.tf This all made sense because he would have an incredibly hard time selling it as he is a marked scammer: SteamRep » Kartereno [banned] | 76561198045307014 | STEAM_0:0:42520643 and is banned on all of the major trading websites. Backpack.tf: Kartereno's Profile - backpack.tf tf2outpost.com: TF2 Outpost / User / Kartereno bazaar.tf: Kartereno's Profile - Bazaar.tf So he would need another player to sell it for him. which would mean that others on trade servers wouldn't associate themselves with him. So he lied about owning the original unusual and never mentioned this third party, the actual victim who lost out of multiple buds which i feel sorry for him and hope he and kart made up after this since they are friends. So after awhile i didn't pay attention to it because it was delt with again. Until today he decides to talk to Mega robin, orangejuice, penguin, where for some reason my name came up and he proceeded to tell these three (who don't care for tf2 at all nor tf2 drama) about how i am a scammer for some reason. Upset obviously i decided to make this thread with the blessing of penguin. Thank you for reading, it's 1 am and i might of missed something, i will update if i forget something. Please do take this thread seriously, you may give your input if you care enough but please keep it civil, i make this thread because it effects my trading reputation if someone goes around calling me a scammer, and this heavily effects my brokering service. which i made a rep thread and actually brokered many unusuals for a good ammount of current and former xG members. rep thread: Vector's Rep Thread! i forgot to mention he also talked about it into shout box as i have little opportunity to defend my self on servers because of my ban. kart's profile: Steam Community :: Kartereno

Here it is, the moment you've all been waiting for. I honestly don't want to do this all that bad and do at the same time. I have decided to step down and leave xG due to how toxic this clan is. I enjoy being moderator, but it's also limiting me from having fun and apparently has made me change as @Hachi @ChickenPanda stated. It must have been happening for a while, and I apologize to everyone, even those who don't deserve it, for being...well, an asshole. I will still be active on the servers and probably the forums too, but maybe I can start afresh with everyone. The following people made xG worthwhile and memorable: @Dethman @Ohstopyou @Kurama @metalslug53 @Flareon @Rejects @Goodra @BelloWaldi @Jpie112 @Rogue_Skittle People who I've had ups and downs with: @Hachi @Moosty @ChickenPanda Sorry for not many tags, I still love a lot of you <3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4yawisNuf8 @BonfireCentipede is a skr00by d00 Oh, and finally. @Kurama <-- Make this awesome guy mod.

So I decided to leave xG ;-; Not that I hate the community I just don't feel like being in a clan anymore ;-; I will stay active on the servers and all I just wont be wearing the tag Cya goys have fun without me @kbraszzz @Ohstopyou @Rejects @Kypari

Bye Kypari

Realy sad to see you go, man. You've made a great moderator overall, and I hope you'll come back to the servers from time to time.

Kyparriiiii <3 ..you secsy...dun go..

Getting tagged here and if this is accusing me of my scammer tag, then I could agree some punishment should be in place. In my own defense, I have resolved and calmed down my scammer tag by building a trust within this community. As well my scammer tag was beyond a year ago, I talked with the owner of SourceOP to discuss my scammer tag and he believes that I've changed now, but he won't change my tag due to that being set as a precedent for future tags. He doesn't want to take the risk of anything. I have built my own trust with people, and @Rhododendron and I have loan lump sums of money from each other and he can trust me with it. Ergo, my own personal standpoint of this. He should have a tag that shows he's a high risk trader and to trade under caution. So he could potentially build up trust within this community, you can't just say someone leaving jail for murder will murder someone immediately. People change, and if we can set this precedent where people can have a chance or retribution in this clan, they should. I know I have, Brian could've easily banned me, and other DM/DLs when they found out about my tag and I became a moderator. They didn't, which is good for me. That's my $0.02. EDIT: I know this is thousands of dollars and mine was barely hundreds. Though I'm saying this to set a precedent for any future issues like myself.

HYPE

@Dethmango just trying out custom tags

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You can't be serious? I see at least a quarter of the poketrade server actively adverting for trades 24/7 I see people trading in FF2 and JB quite often too, I often have to remind them not to do it on mic.... Also, you sort of contradict yourself... how could this cause the population to drop if "Noone trades"??? If noone is trading then a tag that labels them a scammer isn't going to hurt their not trading-ness....

After extensive review with the other higher ups in the TF2 division, the conclusion has been made to permanently ban the user in question for the reason of death threats and harassment. Let it be known that we still will NOT take these kinds of threats idly. It is a serious offense to threaten someone with death over something as trivial as a video game. Thread closed.

It's stupid that it's illegal? I trade on xG servers, and I'd rather not have people like that running around and attempting to scam the younger kids we have on the servers. I've already been called on multiple times by people who were scammed! The people had to file SteamRep reports. Not to mention, it's not like we don't have randoms that come on and actually trade. Just because you don't do something, doesn't mean other people don't do it. Also, donation powers are a side thing that we allow on the server. Lets not forget what the server was created for in the first place, so the rules should pertain to that. :|

Kero was a mod before, good to see you again man, so I think he should be. Also, @OHSTOPBAE TAGS ME? LOL.

Oof. This is a fine line we are walking. Steamrep states that anyone who supports scammers by trading with them will be marked as "caution" or "warning". As it hasn't even been a year yet, I don't think we should be allowing him to run free on our servers. I'm up for making a rule that states that your SteamRep ban must be OVER a year old before you can even step foot in an xG trade server, and then add a little disclaimer at the bottom that says it is the responsibility of the people on the server to check the rep of the people they are trading with! Paypal scams are a serious offense as they can constitute grand larceny charges if they go over a certain amount! That's a federal offense! @Rhododendron Steamrep plugin: SteamRep

+1

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first of all you don't get tagged unless you have a history of trading with scammers, the reason for this because no one knows every scammer in the world. My brokering service hasn't come about so i didn't have a rep thread making it so i was a new broker which in turn would make it seem that i bought the unusual off of kart and didn't broker for him. Also keep in mind, i know of his scammer tag and it been awhile ago, but i don't give a shit about my tag as long as i'm helping a friend. if i got marked i wouldn't really care because there are other methods of trading. However i should of been a bit more catious i should admit however, that's not the point of the thread. The thread is to clear up any doubts about my integrity of trading and to put a stop to kart calling me a scammer to random people here in xG and in game, because it's gotten to the point that this rumor has spread to other people not even being a part of xG.

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I think he walked out on a spycrab. I am not 100% sure

We should probably discuss how moderator applications work in the near future, and if the past 7 days is really an open window for these kind of things. Sorry, off topic.

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Bye kypari ;-;

Rest in pants, Kypari. It will be weird seing you without a tag again :p

y u do dis? :(

A short story; Xeno gamers is like a child living off of machines in a hospital.

moral of the story trade your own shit so u don't get scammed (not accusing anyone of scamming) or give them to me ;)

Oh come on. Who even trades on xG servers? It's more of a club where you can trade. Giving someone a tag before their name is stupid when all you have to do is trade them to see if they're a scammer or you can check their steamrep and backpack.tf status.

How about we use the SteamRep API, and if a user is a scammer their name on the trade server gets updated with the prefix [sCAMMER] ?

I suck

This is a really dumb reason not to +1 lmfao +1 active, really the only guy who can countersnipe me :^( M: 9/10 A: 10/10

If I think that's a reason to not vouch, then I'm not going to vouch. Stop being such an asshat to me all of a sudden, Jesus Christ. To me it implies that being gay is a bad thing, that's why I didn't vouch. He removed it and agreed that it was wrong of him. Got a problem with me vouching? Not my problem.

Who even are you?

We can still play CS:GO together. <3