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No, that's definitely not gonna work with all those kids online.

So I'm getting into making SFM posters, but I'm still new to it. For the price of 1 craft hat, (no shit like pyro goggles or anything like that), 2 ref, or more if you're a super duper generous boy/girl, I'll make one for you if you list the: 1. The class you want to be in the poster 2. The cosmetics you want your class to have (I still am struggling with unusual effects) 3. The map you want your class to be on 4. And any other nitpicks or specific info And guess what... If you don't like the poster I made, then I'll give you back your hat. I'm not a dick, and I mostly do these for fun so I could care less if I'm not making a profit (but profit still is nice :D) Comment below or add me on steam if you want a poster. If this thread gets big response, your poster may take a while to make :/ Remember guys, I'm relatively new to SFM. I've made like 2 or 3 posters. All posters will be post to imgur once done and linked to this thread or your steam chatbox. My steam: Steam Community :: Error Example (my spy):

While a melee warday, regardless if the cmd !mwarday is used or not, When LCT is activated the LCT CAN use guns and is NOT restricted to melee only. LCT ALWAYS overrides the current day.... the day becomes "LCT" and is no longer melee warday.... same thing for freedays and hide and seek, etc... This is why when LCT activates on warday/freeday, the last red gets LR (normally there is no LR on freeday/warday) Could staff members please try to enforce this properly so that people will stop being confused and such on the server? THANKS!

Don't really know what happened in the past, but I agree that the past is the past and people change. We've played alot together on JB and I've never noticed a bad behavior, he's friendly and fun to play with +1 A: 8 M: 9

I'm Santa and i will stuff your ass full of coal if u wanna fight about it. But on a more related not, The only problem i can see with vector being unbanned early is people trying to get a rise out of him to get him permed or providing shit/faked evidence to get him permed. ALso @Ohstopyou you need to sit down and think on shit, you are not above the cl's they realized the punish was to harsh. You are not the final say if hes unbanned early or not. You say his posts are "bitchy/moaning" but admitted to not reading them. Has he hurt you that much you have to try your hardest to keep him banned? and unless you have proof people stopped playing because of him dont even bring it up, it seems more personal then anything between you two.

probably because the owners of the channels, and the other people that are channel admins have an inherent belief that vector is worse than hitler and the devil combined, and would probably try to have him perm'd from ts if they saw him in the channel :^) On a more related note: +1 , Now vector is not Saint Nicholas, but then again, who really is santa? none of you guys. le hue He's not a bad guy, I look at his "bm" that you guys would claim, from what you could actually see in real evidence, and it's like a baby pool compared to anything I've seen. and on top of that more often than not, those claiming it are equally bad or worse in several cases. then the un-proved, evidence lacking claims of cyber bullying to the point of making people cry so hard that the server is shit if his presence is thought to be around and that they would never come back if he was. 1, no evidence of that, 2 that is ridiculous if people didn't play cs:s because rabid, netex, duckii, duckii jr, etc. were anywhere near the servers, then xg would not have been around for this tf2 community to flourish. That's all I'm going to say for now, I seem like a broken record constantly bringing up the "no evidence/proof" thing, but it's a fact. you don't just punish someone based on hearsay, you need cold hard evidence.

this is one i made for my friends

Alright, our glory leader @Nomulous is going to code following commands. Reply to this thread to give your opinion and suggest further ideas. In order to activate these commands, you must be warden or or staff member this does not apply for the last ct command. Now what these commands do: !hideandseek [time to seek] || It should say "Hide and Seek" at the bottom Teleport all blues into the armoury Freeze them Open cells and unfreeze the blues after the given amount of time (specified after "!hidenseek") Time must be at least a minute and shouldnt be longer than 2:30 minutes Give reds a little speed buff for the given amount of time. During the set-up, remove the reds meeles so they cannot break into the armoury. Give it to the reds back later, so they can rebel (again) After the given amount of time has expired: Blues should get a little speed buff (a normal hide n seek day goes on..) Possible idea: When there is like 1:30 minutes left, toggle outlines on reds. !warday Once !warday is typed by the warden, he will get to chose if its a meele warday or a normal warday. (Same system as in the vote options for maps) If its a normal warday: It should say "Warday" at the bottom When the warden does !warday, It shows valid places for it to happen or a custom place (if this and the idea above is even possible) If not, freeze and blind all reds for 30 seconds, and give reds ammo and let the blues get to the spot. We could still let the blues pick a location or "own location" and they can type their own spot. (like with the "own reason" in calladmin. Allow blue engies to build dispensers (and sentrys?) Disable last CT and LR for this round. If its Meele-warday:It should say "Meele-Warday" at the bottom Restrict everyone's weapon to meele only, even if you pick up ammo you wont get it. Give blues mini crits and speed ( I mean its like 6 vs 19) !freeday Freeday should firstly enable the normal freeday mode. It should pardon everyone Once it is typed, there should be a message saying something like: "ITS A FREEDAY NOW, REDS CANNOT BE KILLED UNLESS THEY HAVE AMMO OR HIT A BLUE" in a cool font !lastct This command should work with the last ct plugin! Once you type !lastct, you get to pick a class: (Like on ff2 when you select your boss: press 1 for scout, 2 for soldier etc) normal last ct stuff Oh yeah, and when it is last ct, it should say last ct at the bottom. Thanks to Shogun Yao, Speedy G, Caleb956 and Anti-Sven aka Fenrir the wolf. _____________________________________________________________________________ Please reply with a feedback and more ideas/suggestions. @kbraszzz @Moosty @metalslug53 @Rejects @Hachi @Liekos @Dethman @Matsi @ChickenPanda @XHina_sanX @Marceline @Goblin @Diamonde @Jpie112 @Waimalu @Bone @Rogue_Skittle @DeKoi @Insane @Kart @Nomulous @Ohstopyou @The_Unlit_Torch @Bach @Ghosty @Gwoash :( @NitNat @Whyte (?) @Bryan @Tomahawk @FenrirTheWolf @John_Madden @JohnHoston @Hushpuppy @Gr8_Butt_M8 @lik202 @PatientZero @Black_Dynamite @Fiery8022 @Insane

Just pointing something out, @Sylux and @Goblins aren't even members.... Also, I believe that you probably did change, but since you haven't really been on any other TS channel other than the anime channel, I really can't confirm it. Staying neutral for now.

I am sort of confused as to the motive of this thread.... since Vector commented on my post with "i don't want to get unbanned i just wanna see how the ban protest goes so badly" Is this Ban Protest simply to grief???

Here's how I see it. Vector's ban (as agreed to by Silence when there was still a "leader" rank) was reduced to a 6-month server ban, of which about ~2.5-3 months of which has gone by. If anyone thinks that this isn't the case, here is a screenshot proving my point. Unless Silence went back on his decision without notifying us while he was still leader or a secret discussion (of which every other CL is totally unaware of) was had after he became a Community Leader (along with Nomulous), this 6-month server ban still stands. If this was a permanent ban, I would absolutely +1 this and support either an immediate unban or an unban within the near future (the next 1-2 months or so). However, since his server ban is temporary (I believe it's set to expire in November) I feel that Vector should serve out the remainder of his ban. Even though this thread is only a few hours old, we've already begun to butt heads between absolute solutions for this situation. Despite this, I do think that we can come to a compromise. I would definitely be in favor of reducing Vector's server ban to one month. He still has to ride out a little bit more of a punishment, but ultimately Vector will get to play on the servers he says he's still dedicated to improving. I agree with those who have recognized Vector's improvement over the past few months. From what I've seen, he reminds me much more of the Vector I knew and worked with during my time as a mod/admin in CS:S, opposed to the overly argumentative and combative behavior he showed around the time of his ban. I feel that this improvement is enough to warrant a reduction in his ban. The only real way to prove if Vector has definitively improved is to see how he behaves over a longer period of time on our servers. Keep in mind that just because he's unbanned doesn't mean that he's immune to further punishment. If sufficient evidence is brought forth proving to the community that he is still an overwhelmingly negative force on our community and servers, a new ban (which almost certainly) will be a perm will be enacted. If Vector really is as toxic as some people say he is, this evidence shouldn't be too difficult to collect. However, keep in mind that this evidence has to have some substance to it. I don't want just a list of complaints from people butthurt that he rustled their jimmies after telling them about rules they broke, unless he was unnecessarily cruel when doing so. All in all, I think that Vector's ban should be reduced to a month, due to recent improvement in his behavior on Teamspeak and the forums. However, if the community (not just one DL) comes to a different conclusion, I'd be fine with it.

Going to post what I said in the tf2 higher up convo here. It's relevant and this way the CLs can see it. I've seen improvement. He's not as bad as he was before on the forums. Vector isn't a nice guy, but the tone is different now. He's a bit combative but no personal attacks, and no starting shit on purpose (that ban protest was going downhill regardless, he could've changed to an amish guy that gave all his tf2 shit out for free and that thread would have gone the same way. All of us know that). He isn't a kissass or one for apologies, but he's honest and direct. He got the complaints about the personal attacks and being rude to individuals, but I'm not seeing it on forums. He has been passionate about disagreeing with rules and our decisions, but all of that is fair game for all members to comment on. I know alot of people stopped coming because of him, but nothing he has done on our servers is recent. If the discussion is about whether or not he has changed, then nothing he did on our servers is relevant to that discussion. When I first joined I was friends with Vector, then he took a turn for the worse and playing on the same server wasn't an enjoyable experience anymore. The Vector I'm seeing on the forums reminds me of the old Vector. He'll never be a suck up like other people. He won't beg. Forbidding him from mona pizza is pointless because he isn't the type to do that anyway. But what I'm seeing from him is improvement. He was banned because he stopped attacking rule breakers in a direct and effective way and turned into a shit starter that wasn't fun to be around. The way he talks and interacts isn't always the most amiable, and he's argumentative, but I'm seeing the arguments shift back to a productive tone. I understand if you haven't seen it, or disagree, I'm just asking for you to look deeper and give him a chance, because I have seen improvement.

+1 baby come back A: 9/10 M: 8.9/10

That's because we didn't take it nearly as seriously as the TF2 div are. He was hardly different, and because we all took it as jokes, he acted more jokingly to fit with it. It's sort of a 10x better version of rabid, except it's actually meant It also seems that every time that vector tries to bring up points in a discussion, it is immediately taken as a 'fight' and he is just straight up labelled as what he apparently is now kek

I don't know what xG would be like if Vector was never here. Not gonna lie. When I first joined, Vector was one of the main dudes I went to with questions and concerns. He was one of the biggest supporters of me initially getting Mod and eventually Admin that I can recollect. He stood up for me when I was going through the ranks and actually gave a shit about me. I consider Vector a friend. I've never had any issues with Vector on a personal level. There are very few times we have ever actually disagreed about anything, and when we did disagree about something, we were quick to bump heads and resolve our issues, and get right back to work on whatever we were working on. Vector was always one to handle things a bit more brash than others, but he never slacked in his duties and always made sure rules were being enforced. It wasn't until I became a DM that I even really ever had any sway over what Vector was doing in our clan, and when it happened, I was bombarded by an overwhelming rush of complaints about how he handled things. Perhaps it was just my new responsibilities that meant I'd eventually have to deal with the issue, or maybe it just came with the job, but the inevitable fallout of Vector being banned happened, and I am still very mixed on that decision. But here we are now. Vector is here, protesting the ban, showing us all that he still very much cares about this clan. The very clan that cast him out, told him that he was unwanted, that he was a jerk and a butt...he still cares about this clan. He still wants to be apart of this community, even after everything that has happened. I can't say I'd feel very much like sticking around a clan that did that to me, even if I was or was not in the wrong. The moment something like that happened, I would have been out of that clan in a heartbeat and never turned back. It takes a hell of a lot of drive to stick around a place like that, especially if a majority of the members made it perfectly clear that you were not welcome. Well, I say "Fuck it" to all of that nonsense and will give my +1 to the unban. I'm not advocating a reinstatement of admin privileges or an immediate addition to the moderation team or anything, but if Vector can humble himself enough to say "I fucked up and want to make amends." and still show that he actually gives a damn about our community, I say we give him the benefit of the doubt and welcome him back. I can't speak for everyone, and I know that a lot of those who have already posted in this thread have made it evidently clear that you dislike Vector, but me....I'm a forgive and forget kind of guy. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me, you know? Just my two cents. tl:dr I +1 the unban.

Fair enough, but I'm not sure complaining about and mocking the tf2 division every single day is going to make us +1 you.

-1 Big smelly turds stay out of my living room.

._________. This for the minecraft division jesus. @SuperMaddud would be the one you tag

So, all the people who don't know who Swoosh is, he plays demoman for our highlander team. This is what happened- <21:47:41> "Swoosh": gutys <21:47:49> "Beel": what <21:47:53> "Beel": SWOOSH <21:47:53> "Swoosh": my brother beat the shit out of me <21:47:59> "Beel": PLZ <21:48:01> "Swoosh": im bleeding <21:48:06> "Dethman": ? <21:48:08> "Dethman": what <21:48:11> "Swoosh": im going to the hospital Get better @Swoosh!

omg i love all of you guys so much. <3

Why can't we all just have a nice calm and collected ban protest? Is that so much to ask?

Sorry guys. I consulted with Nom on the matter and we spoke with Rhodo. The CLs went back on their decision and I have yet to see an improvement on behavior on the forums from him, so he won't be unbanned. I don't care if he knows the rules or if he even helped to make some of them. That doesn't exempt him from them or allow for behavior like this. You can say I have a grudge, or that I'm "butthurt" or whatever you want. I honestly don't care and wasn't thinking about this until Nom talked about shaping up the Tf2 division and making it more appetizing and less stressful for new and current people. One of the main reasons people told me they avoided the servers like the plague were because of specific people that were playing on them. Trust me, Vector isn't the only one and some more may be leaving as well, that is if they try to cause more problems than they already have. Suggestion: Maybe he should consider not tearing everyone a new one whenever they disagree with him or get a rule wrong. Not everyone is intentionally trying to cause problems and when you go overboard and humiliate them in front of everyone (instead of being adaptive to each situation), it kind of leaves a mark on them and dissuades them from joining the servers again (i.e. I've noticed this with every young kid ever on our servers). Maybe talk to me in a few months if you have improved your behavior. Try to actually act civil like the adult you are, and it might actually happen! Have a good night everyone! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also no, a mona pizza will not get you out of this. The highest authority has set the ban. Maybe this time we can actually fix the root of the problem, rather than cover it up or make it into a joke. Edit: And yes, I will actually consider unbanning you if you do change your attitude around. Not saying you have to like everyone, but don't be flat out horrible to everyone.

You're gonna need a new European Moderator because things get super shitty in the morning. Glad to see you finally leave this clan, worse than 4chan.

-1. If my reason is needed I will give it. I feel like if I even try to explain why I'll just get bm'd to hell.

Staying neutral for now since you were just unbanned. But he has been 10x better then we last saw him.