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I don't think he's screaming favoritism and throwing a fit. He has a point and it's related to this application. I think we should remove the age requirement for TF2. ThunderLimes's and Kitty's apps prove that it's not helping and a lot of "underage" people should be able to post a mod applications, since they do not have to meet any age requirements when we manually pick them either. But yes, anyways, I'll take this up to the admin forums to discuss it any further. Good luck on your application, Kitty. I personally haven't seen you enough to judge , since I play a lot on surf. EDIT: fixed the tons of typos lmao

If a person was a staff member in the past, that lets us know how mature of a person they are. We already know how they handle powers and we know how they will do their job as a staff member. Throwing a fit screaming "favoritism" isn't exactly going to get you anywhere, as long as the we higher-ups are fine with it, then the application can be made. The age thing is there because most younger people ARE immature, age does mean a lot when it comes to maturity. I personally would be fine with anyone under the age requirement being staff, so long as they show that they are mature and can handle it correctly. Someone's moderator application is not the place to bring this, just message a higher-up if you have a problem with how things are handled, please do not just post things like this where they don't belong.

Bsor is fine. It's a very nice map in my opinion and I'm tired of seeing "remove this map" votes. I don't understand why everyone complains about removing maps when I know when we DO clean the maplist people will just complain that there's not enough maps. I like bsor a lot personally, it has a nice aesthetic and really fits on a trade server, like ours. I say this a lot but, a measurement of "fun" in your eyes isn't exactly a reason to keep or remove a map, the map has 0 bugs or problems that I can see and I would rather see it stay on the server. It's the only map I think we're going to get that has the entirety of Bomb-omb battlefield, and still have spawns fair enough to actually consider it a trade map.

I was only joking :c

The top10 are not permanent, and I'm sure most in the top 10 aren't on the forum. It would have to update often. I like the idea but I don't think it would work well

I dont see how adding the reminder to the staff roster would be a bad idea, maybe even just adding a command to see who is staff if possible.

I don't want to quote the whole post but sesh just reminded me of a separate issue that I forgot to add, that it's wierd to see members use xG tags when staff aren't. If we had issues with people thinking xg members were staff before, then adding staff not wearing tags to that mix makes it way worse. I know xG tags aren't a requirement so that makes fixing it difficult but it makes it way more confusing.

So since we've had this for a while I want to point out one thing I've noticed, it's not the biggest issue and I don't want to be the ruin the fun guy but It's really hard now to figure out who higher ups are looking through steam friends. And I'm sure new players and members have it even harder than those of us that have known you guys forever. So maybe if we tried out something like DM+ wearing tags all the time, or even just when they aren't on the server. Or even something as simple as being more consistent with names so it's easier to keep track. Just really anything different that makes it easier to communicate with or even find higher ups over steam. Because right now if you don't know profile pictures or renaming habits it's a crapshoot. Like I said it isn't the biggest issue but improving it could help communication.

If admin+ can still deem it unbreakable than +1 It was a fun map to play and since the biggest problem with spawncanping (setting up buildings on top of the room model and behind the door on that one tent behind and to the left of spawn) would just be considered exploiting and stopped then it should be much harder to make breaking it absolutely impossible anymore. I'm a bit wary but it atleast can't be as bad as it was. Lol compared to what used to happen on nimbus the worst of clocktown is a brisk workout at best, you sweet summer child.

Okay so I want to first off start this by saying: @Vexx you made the biggest mistake by allowing Thunderlimes to make his staff application EVEN THOUGH he was under age aka not meeting the current requirements to make a staff app. Im not doing this to start drama but I myself think amy is super fit to become staff but if she doesnt meet the age requirement then she should be able to make this app. This is extremely unfair as I see it as favortism because there are people in the past , that I have seen, attempt to get moderator or thought about getting it but couldn't do so due to the age requirement needed. If anyone reading this is wondering wants to read the rules for creating staff submissions click here. Like if we're going to have this rule we might as well remove it because if we're going to allow stuff like this to happen then theres no point in that rule being there. Now you might be ready to say ''That rule is only to ensure that the person applying are mature so if we know they're mature then its fine.'' No, it isnt because it makes it look like you're telling every other person that was under age that they are immature and unfit for the position and that since they weren't staff before then they don't have the right to make an app. Again if this is going to become a thing where its like ''Oh since I saw someone else do it I can do it as well'' then you might as well remove the rule OR lower the age requirement because I just think this makes it look like we're biased. Again I'm not here to start some sort of war I just think its stupid to favor certain apps because they were staff members before.

It's because of the map and no it can't be fixed. Just start the map again.

I'd hardly consider half of the things you were doing or saying 'having fun' especially when a good bit of it was racist, in poor taste, or just outright ridiculing people along with those two others. You've also had a day ban in the past for trolling around before by Vexx and such. Now, I came to Pokemon because I heard from Dethman people were being particularly rowdy there and saying some really nasty things, and I managed to hear quite a bit during my time there. I even have a demo of some of it so I'll post that at the bottom here. There was more before this including stuff like "how is talking about bombing china or japan racist" or the occasional n-bomb from Fred and more according to Dethman as well, but after I showed this demo to Vexx and talked about it it was decided Fred would get a month ban and the other two a week. Some people didn't really have much of a choice since every time I see Fred on with his friends they're usually always picking people out to have fun at the expense of or creating a rather uncomfortable atmosphere. wew.dem Would also like to tag @Vexx and @Dethman to give input if desired.

I mean, there is nothing wrong with the map... It has gaming themes in it. It isn't a terrible map lmao. Don't see why we should remove it.

+1 I'm only gonna say yes on this one because I've seen it once or twice, and it looked fairly interesting as a map. I can't say I ever saw the spawn camping that I've heard so much about, but if we can live with the situation that clocktown stirs, then I feel this can't be much worse.........right...?

Ohhh no!!! :( That's not good That's too painful T_T I hope your back feel better very soon.

Division: Team Fortress 2 In-Game Name: [xG] Sora Identity: STEAM_0:1:66995622 Position: Moderator Time Active: 29 days 1 hour and 51 minutes Age: 17 Experience: I once was an admin of another server that ran cp_orange crits with a lot of kids that came by. That server died, though, so I'm no longer affiliated with any of that. As of now, the only real experience I have is from watching other staff members handle situations. Donated: Yes Information: I'm usually on TGH for a few hours a day and frequently, I see a lot of problems that could be solved if I had a bit of authority. xG is also a fun place to just listen in or play on the servers. If I could just help out a little, I suppose.

The map was voted to be removed a while ago though one of the big reasons it was voted off got nerfed between now and then- namely the bison. I figured I'd gauge interest in it coming back if at all possible seeing as how a lot of people have been talking about it lately.

Similar what happened on your application, Idleserver isn't a clan and it isn't my primary affiliation.

It's actually scaled very well, based off tf2 player models, and you could barely tell the difference between the two games if you got an edgy sniper main with a cs:go loadout.

+1 A:6 M:8 Used to see him on TGH all the time. Been around for a while, would make a good member.

Ignore the post I had made previously, I had made it as I was just waking up so I was just really confused. We will talk over changing the age requirement, maybe lowering it to the same age as our membership requirement (13) so that everyone gets a fair chance. For now, if there is anyone you feel should be a moderator, please feel free to recommend them to a staff member/higher up. We're always looking for recommendations on staff.

A badge for people in the top10 in servers. Maybe even for only the #1 or top 3. I feel this would be some kind of reward for people who have spent so much time to get that spot on the top10.

I've been wanting to apply for mod for about a week now but I cant because I'm only 15. I turn 16 May 26. This is just me talking but I almost at the level of maturity where I could apply. I don't think we should do it on age restriction anymore. Doing it by maturity would be a good idea. I have also met members who want to get staff, and they are pretty mature, but don't meet the age requirement. But back to Amy's app, +1 Would make good addition to staff team. A:9 M:8

An automated message that links to the roster would be helpful, something about "If you need to find a staff member go to [link]" or such. As Kypari said almost every server does the title system and for those that talk a lot they should consider wearing tags- though having a link to the roster would help. I often type in chat so my title is displayed, but even when I wore tags that DIDN'T always help new players know what I was. I don't know about you, but regular xG members often got confused for staff because they had [xG] in their name, and often enough people forgot I was staff whether I had mine on or not. What I'm saying is that titles or tags new players get confused regardless, people forgot I was staff even with tags a thing before and new players also would confuse regulars or people wearing the normal tags for staff pretty often. The titles at the least display what we are in full "Moderator/Admin/Division Manager/etc" @Vexx and some others can definitely attest to this.

Titles are fine. They can clearly see that we're staff in the chat. Literally every server other than us does titles

translation: I think she should be a mod because there are few staff especially in Deathrun and other servers SO it´s a EXTREMLY good idea

I'm just going to give the same reply I gave to @TheSupremePatriot asking almost the same thing. Edit: Also

I have seen people being turned down for their age even though they were mature enough. Does this apply only to former moderators?

A few things: - "In poor taste" is based on opinion - Once again it was all in fun, and there were VERY fee complaints from others, even in terms of staff - Should people even care if we are ridiculing other groups? At most we joked with ONE GUY for having a pony profile pic and he seemed okay with it - Once again nobody complained, and even so why should it matter if a very small percentage of the people on at the time weren't agreeing with us?

Oh nvm that wasn't for me

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Can't wait to break out the old machina. +1

+1 is a great map to spawn camp on since the spawn camping rule was removed HAHAHAHAHAHA

+1 Really fun hallway and spam simulator.

this will be you in 10 years

Game Name: Persona 5 Platform: PS3 PS4 Time Spent: (A rough estimate is fine if the game doesn't track it) 83 Hours and 54 minutes in 1 playthrough on easy Currently playing through again on Merciless. Do you recommend? Yes What you rate the game: (1 to 10) 9.8 Initial Thoughts: As you guys already know, i love the persona series and i was incredibly excited for the game. I had preordered this game back in late October to get my hands on it in February. Sadly it got delayed for 2 months and released in April, and i will tell you right now, it was well worth the wait. First of all, this game was supposed to be released back in winter of 2014 but kept being delayed and delayed. I cannot possibly imagine how fans of 3 and 4 when those games were released must have been feeling all this time. Pros: (At least 2 reasons) Now first of all, the gameplay of this game is phenomenal It's the best the series has ever had. Your MC soon forms a group with his friends called the Phantom Thieves and if you think thieves, you think stealth. This is completely true in this game as the game dungeons are fantastic. First of all, they are light years better looking then Persona 3 and 4. As you can see via the screen shots, these areas are incredibly detailed. You venture through these "Palaces" To steal the hearts of adults who have committed horrible crimes. Each palace has puzzles and has a large emphasis on stealth. You must venture through the palaces to steal each the "treasure" of the leader of palace. You also climb walls and leap across platforms to get across obstacles. It's very ambitious and it payed off incredibly well. Another positive is the fantastic story. This is definitely the best story out when you compare 3, 4 and 5. The developers wanted to get into a more dreary story like that of the original persona series and the Shin megami tensei series and it really shows on the villains. It also is fun to see the phantom thieves escalate further and further with the more they help people Another positive, is there is so much to do and you definitely get your money's worth when it comes to length of the game. I completed the game on easy, in over 80 hours, meaning you if you play on normal you will more than likely get 100 hours out of this game. There are many activites outside of just combat and social links, batting cages, video games, stat building (which was in 3 and 4) in many different ways. Not only does this game have Palaces, but if you liked the scaling of tartarus in P3 or the climbing of floors in P4, P5 has you covered as it has it's own dungeon called mementos. While it's not as vast as tartarus or as beautiful as the dungeons in P5, it's nice to have a whole new area to explore with over 50 floors. The characters are also great. While not as good as persona 4 in my opinion, they are better than 3's and they are all very well defined and written teenagers that each have a story and dilemma that is addressed in their respective social links. Haru is probably the weakest but i suppose that's to be expected since shes the last party member you get. Some might be a bit annoyed with Ryuji at times with his dialog, and i will admit, it can be a little annoying especially with the English voice. However, if you can stand English voice acting, just download the free voice pack to get the Japanese dub however you will miss some side dialog. Also, there have been complaints about certain dialoug such as "Salty" and other hip young lingos the kids use these days but they aren't so bad. However i did slap my face when i read bellow. Also Futaba is cute as fuck. As i mentioned before the environments of the palaces are fantastic. However outside of the palaces are just as amazing. Walking around the city with a bunch of people walking by, crowded and cramped really feels like a city and there are multiple parts of cities, and each look beautiful. Atlus really makes use of the Ps3's and Ps4's power demonstrating how beautiful the city can be sometimes. Cons: (At least 2 reasons). There are some cons. As i mentioned in my previous reviews of P3 and P4, the music in the games are fantastic. Unfortunately, the soundtrack in my opinion, is very disappointing. P3 and P4 each had music that i can instantly remember when that piece plays and i actually found my self listening to these songs outside of the game as well. P5 doesn't really have any aside from the theme and a few other gems but when you compare it to P4 and 3, it really is lacking. P3 had iconic songs such as Mass Destruction, Burn My Dread, the station songs while P4 had Your Affection, Shadow World, It's time to make history and so on. I honestly can't even remember the names of P5s songs. This isn't to say it's a bad soundtrack, it serves it's purpose and it sounds fine, however P3 and P4's soundtrack sound perfect for each respective game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATcKBMYYSJs Another con i have is that there isn't really many outdoor trips that you and your companions take that actually feel like you and your companions grow as friends. There are some celebrations like when a party member is recruited or when a mission is accomplished but those don't really go into detail, the only one that does is when you complete the second palace. There is the Hawaii trip but that felt like a little bit of a waste of time. The trip to the beach though was a fun experience but Persona 4 Golden had the camping trip, the school festival, the ski trip, the fireworks show and so on. Persona 3, had the trip to Kyoto, the island trip (which was more interactive then persona 5's trips) as well as a few funny voiced scenes showing a different side of each of your party members. Final Thoughts: In the end, Persona 5 is a fantastic game. It was well worth the wait, the added difficulty to the game is very well appreciated as even on hard in Persona 4 Golden, it got a little easy at points because of certain cheese tactics. Not saying there isn't anything like that here, but later in the game you see stronger enemies who hit hard and have hardly any weaknesses and while you can farm, you have to be careful of certain things. Status effects in this game for example are a nightmare. They hit so much more often then they did in P3 and P4 that it can be very frustrating. For example, in the first Palace, Sucubus has the ability to use Marin Karin, which they changed it to have a high chance to inflict charm. One shadow ambushed me and i was surrounded, meaning the 4 succubus went first. They all caste Marin Karin and each member of my party of 4 was hit and eventually died and had to reload. Rage, hunger, charm, fear, and so on feel like they hit often, so be sure to bring your meds and characters that cure such problems. While i do like persona 4 more then 5 in certain aspects. There is no denying that the gameplay of this game is phenomenal and you will not be bored. In the end, this game is a perfect example of how much people put hard work into video games. The details of the Personas, the story, the characters and gameplay completely outshine anything negative about this game. Thank you for reading. This will be my last persona review for awhile. Stay tuned for something else. Futaba is best girl

Oh Sh**********t I hope your back heals soon! Try eating ginger, drinking aloe verde juice (buy from store). Maybe Turmeric, too if I remember correctly. They should all help relieve inflammation, reduce pain, plus give your immune system a boost.

Get well soon nerd

Got it boyo, here's hoping your back stops giving you grief sooner than later. Take care until then.

Hope your back feels better soon!!!

My back has been in a lot of pain to the point where it has been rather unpleasant to sit up for long periods of time, especially in a computer chair. My back is starting to get better so I should get active again in at least 1-3 more days. It shouldn't be any longer than that, if it so happens too... then this reason stands I will be active on the forum for the next few days but probably won't be up to sitting at the computer. I will return! ValveTime™ x3 @Bello @mrnutty12 @Sesh @Rejects @Vexx

I will discuss the age requirements for the mod application with the tf2 division higherups, and either rework it for all mod apps, or just tf2 specifically. For the time being as there seems to be a lot of support for her, I'll allow this application to stay up in the mean time. Also, @Kypari they asked me if the thread can stay up due to thunderlimes being a previous mod in the past, and none of the higherups would have an issue in that scenario. It is on me for not clarifying the rules so you need to try to understand the thinking process behind our decision of thunderlimes without just thinking everything must be black + white. If I'm looking for someone who is interested in being a moderator and have specific guidelines, but they have a proven track record, it is obvious that letting that user still make a post is fine. It's not really that hard to understand.

You protested your ban and people are giving feedback. I'm not sure what else you expected. Hope you come back a cooler dude.

HELLO I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE '14 >:c

Then explain why the 1 or 2 staff online didn't do anything. At this point Id prefer to hear what Vexx has to say on this topic, I think youve had your stage time.

aw that sucks xd

Rejects has been demoted. #closed

+1 Really fun map and brings back a lot of memories

In-Game Name: [xG:REP] Depressed Optimist Active Division: Team Fortress 2 Previously a Member in xG: No Identity: Steam Community :: [xG:REP] Depressed Optimist Banned: No Teamspeak Account Synced: No Time Active on Servers: 3 days Age: 16 Reasons for Joining: I enjoy the servers, they're my favorite pass time and I enjoy the members and others. I like the variety, and maps. I enjoy the time I've spent, and have been looking toward the moment I could apply, and felt ready. I always try my best to help and be friendly to those, and talk to others.