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So you're disrespectfully saying you never disrespect? and expected mod back? and when you didnt get it back you rage quit? So with all that, what makes you think we ever planned to give you mod back, which is a privilege, not a right. you don't get mod just for playing on servers, you get it for being respectful and enforcing the rules.

I shall clear some things up first. "I have decided I am leaving xG. There are a number of reasons I have to do this and none of them are any fault of mine. First of all the way the CLs handled the whole member protest problem was embarrassing and the final outcome even more so. Not entirely sure how it was embarrassing. What would have been embarrassing is if we had given bans based on evidence without checking further into things. It also would have been embarrassing for us to give a decision within minutes of the thread. We took our time to come to a conclusion that addressed a number of issues. Just because you put up a ban request doesn't mean we are going to ignore other sides of the situation. For example: If someone puts up a ban protest for someone mass freekilling, and we go through the evidence and find that someone was warden and told them to kill everyone, then we address all issues and two people get banned for different amounts and reasons. I will not accept my demotion for doing nothing wrong, I would love an example where I have abused my responsibility as a mod to warrant a demotion, can't find one? neither can I. You had admitted to retaliation. No matter what circumstances it is, harassment is harassment. You said they did it to you and that you did it back to them. You can't use someone elses actions as an excuse to act improperly. We have a responsibility to stop harassment against all members, not just one. You were not given a forum ban because of the much lesser extend to which you harassed others. There were other outlets you had to take care of the situation as well, which included contacted your DM or DL, or any CL who would have taken care of the situation. All the issue needed was an announcement from a CL to those involved to cease fighting or be punished but all we got were unnecessary demotions and bans which were lifted anyway so that makes it even more pointless! The issue did not need an announcement, especially since you made a big deal out of it. Had it "just needed an announcement" I would have thought you would have confronted us about it. CL's had no say in bans that were lifted, that was purely something that is in Silence's hands. I am not angry at any of those involved in the protest. I have made amends with the majority of those involved and there are no further issues. That is not the reason I am leaving. I am leaving because of the CLs and the way this clan is run (with the exception of Nomulous). I was so angry after I saw the outcome of the protest I was thinking of leaving right there and then but I kept going until the next promo demo as I heard the demotions were a temporary demotion and everyone will be re promoted next promo demo. This is not just me I feel unjustified for I also feel for Moosty. Yes he made that picture which was wrong but he apologised for it and he should not of been demoted either. Any demotion is a temporary demotion. Members that are truly "dedicated TF2 Div trade members" would not leave a clan. You can never expect to receive a promotion, especially when the same kind of behavior continues after the punishment in which you lost your powers. Everyone did get promoted the next promo demo though, but CL's turned down all but starmix; he has shown maturity and generally stayed out of most issues since the punishment which cannot be said for the rest and thus why they were all denied promotion. What baffles me is the only person who got demoted in the protest and got his powers back is StarmiX. This obviously points to favourism and I refuse to be in a community that favours some members above others. I don't even think i've met starmix. Don't assume when you don't know the truth. Actually, come to think of it, I don't think i've played or let alone held a conversation with any of you before this incident. Its hard for me to play favorites with someone i dont know. I was told by Hiding "you must earn your mod again" sorry but no. Yes. Nobody will ever get mod handed to them. There was nothing stopping you from receiving it again, and chances are you would have got it back next time. I already earned it and did a good job with it, you demoted me and Moosty without knowing how much effort we put in to the TF2 div trade servers. You're an idiot and how you are a CL baffles me. I cannot say one way or another about your mod performance, and i'm sure you earned it the first time. But, you actions, along with others, caused mod to be lost. I'm the furthest thing from an idiot, but thanks for insulting me (it reinforces our decision). I really don't appreciate you calling me an idiot, that can be considered verbal abuse and harassment if it continues. so well done CLs on this clan losing one of the most active, friendly and dedicated TF2 Div trade members. Give yourselves a pat on the back and maybe learn how to run a community properly because you are clueless, corrupt and idiotic from what I've seen. Can you go ahead and let us know exactly how we are clueless, corrupt and idiotic? As far as I can tell we handled it in the best way that we could, although hopefully we can get answers a little faster. I will still play the servers sometimes but I am not affiliating myself with xG." Hope to see you around. Feel free to message us with any further questions.

@Shadow1226 First off nice furry avatar, Second I'm going to make you feel like a complete and utter dumb ass, About 8 or so last night, we all got on csgo (chappies ts not xG) so it was the usual people shik. klure, kermit and my self, and we asked warrior if he wanted to play he comes and you join off of him, what a mistake that was, We give you the ts info the first thing you come in and say is CRISTO GAVE ME BLEEDS IP WOEOWEOWEOWEOWEOWEOWEOWEOWEOWE I GON DDOS THIS GUY WEOWEOWEOWEOWEOWEOWEOWEOWE, every single person in that ts can confirm it as well as Aegean which is a reliable source, After you talked about all that we continue on with our game and the amount of dick sucking and casual shit talking you did to try and mirror / mimic us to fit into our group was unreal. I think i speak for every one that has ever been apart of this community NOBODY FUCKING LIKES YOU. Just move on and find a different group there will never be a place for you NEVER. In either group xG's Our chappies.

xG may be dying, but at least we cured one piece of cancer.

I have decided I am leaving xG. There are a number of reasons I have to do this and none of them are any fault of mine. First of all the way the CLs handled the whole member protest problem was embarrassing and the final outcome even more so. I will not accept my demotion for doing nothing wrong, I would love an example where I have abused my responsibility as a mod to warrant a demotion, can't find one? neither can I. All the issue needed was an announcement from a CL to those involved to cease fighting or be punished but all we got were unnecessary demotions and bans which were lifted anyway so that makes it even more pointless! I am not angry at any of those involved in the protest. I have made amends with the majority of those involved and there are no further issues. That is not the reason I am leaving. I am leaving because of the CLs and the way this clan is run (with the exception of Nomulous). I was so angry after I saw the outcome of the protest I was thinking of leaving right there and then but I kept going until the next promo demo as I heard the demotions were a temporary demotion and everyone will be re promoted next promo demo. This is not just me I feel unjustified for I also feel for Moosty. Yes he made that picture which was wrong but he apologised for it and he should not of been demoted either. What baffles me is the only person who got demoted in the protest and got his powers back is StarmiX. This obviously points to favourism and I refuse to be in a community that favours some members above others. I was told by Hiding "you must earn your mod again" sorry but no. I already earned it and did a good job with it, you demoted me and Moosty without knowing how much effort we put in to the TF2 div trade servers. You're an idiot and how you are a CL baffles me. so well done CLs on this clan losing one of the most active, friendly and dedicated TF2 Div trade members. Give yourselves a pat on the back and maybe learn how to run a community properly because you are clueless, corrupt and idiotic from what I've seen. I will still play the servers sometimes but I am not affiliating myself with xG. Goodbye to the good people listed below. @BonfireCentipede @Vector @Kypari @Tekage @metalslug53 @Nomulous @kbraszzz @OthernicepeopleImissed

T.T Now I have a sad. I'm sorry to see you go, Kitty. =(

"so well done CLs on this clan losing one of the most active, friendly and dedicated TF2 Div trade members. Give yourselves a pat on the back and maybe learn how to run a community properly because you are clueless, corrupt and idiotic from what I've seen." Maybe this is will give you a better chance of getting mod back.

"That would mean Vector will have his hands full if our server takes root and generates a lot of traffic." I guess we don't exist @TwoZeroFour @Barmithian @BonfireCentipede Edit: Honestly, it's kind of disrespectful that you act as if we (the others admins) don't have the same leverage. We pop trade servers (sorry if it's not TGH, but nonetheless we pop our other trade servers) and we hope you see us as admins for all servers.

Pretty much what kitty posted in her thread, just read kitty's goodbye thread if you want a reason why I'm leaving too. Also I will still play the servers, But I will be alot less active. Like, Alot less active. Good people I will say goodbye to. @Vector @Kypari @Tekage @Nomulous @Shadower @Vaporeon @SupremeWolf @kbrazz So goodbye. I might join again but it will be very very very unlikely.

So, with the completion of xG's new Unusual map, our Unusual server is now live. It's my hope that we get a lot of attention to our servers because of this, as the map in itself is, in my opinion, one of the best Unusual server maps I have ever been on. That being said, I think we need to discuss the rules for this particular server. OFC, being an xG server, all of the basic xG rules will be applied, however it being an Unusual server, I feel that there should be some additional rules put into place in order to cover some other basics that aren't really covered in xG's core ruleset. 1. "Cancer" This term is seen by many players as very disrespectful, even if it is true. For those of you who aren't familiar with the term, "Cancer" is used to describe Unusual hats with low-tier effects, (And sometimes low-tier hats themselves.) I've been in Unusual servers where they have barred the use of such disrespectful terminology, and I wouldn't be opposed to enforcing the same rule on our Unusual server as well. I feel that if the environment allows for disrespect that some players will not want to attend our map. This should be a discussion point: Do you think we should ban the use of the word "Cancer"? 2. Quicksells Another thing that is barred from a LOT of Unusual servers is the advertisement that one is buying Quicksells. Lots of Unusual servers believe that people who focus solely on Quicksells is detrimental to the Unusual market and prices of specific hats. I tend to agree. I don't necessarily want to ban users from SELLING at Quicksell prices, but advertising that you are only buying Quicksells presses a stress on the players in the room to sell for lower than they are comfortable with. Once again, this should probably be another discussion point: Should we allow players to advertise that they are buying Quicksells? 3. RTD It's no secret that Unusual servers aren't exactly combat-centric. RTD is an excellent plugin for use in servers that focus mainly on combat, so my question is this: Should we even have RTD on the Unusual server at all? There are some servers who do have large combat rooms that have the plugin enabled, but for the most part, as it stands now, our Unusual Map is not the most combat-focused map. So, should we allow the RTD plugin to remain on the server, where players can potentially roll into a No-Clip and kill/spawn sentries in important rooms, such as the opposing spawn or in the Spycrab rooms? As a moderator, I feel this would be problematic, especially when dealing with high-stakes gambles. If a high-stakes Crab was taking place, and somebody No-Clipped into the room and killed one of the participating crabbers, a shitstorm would ensue. I personally feel that it should be removed, or at the very least, certain rolls disabled. 4. Mod/Admin involvement. Most Unusual servers allow their Admins to act as middle-men for high-stakes Crabs. This lowers the risk of someone skating off without paying for a lost Spycrab. The level of involvement is very specific however. Most servers require an ADMIN to take in large-stake crabs, so do we want to keep it that way as well? That would mean Vector will have his hands full if our server takes root and generates a lot of traffic. Or, do we want the Moderators to also be allowed to act as middle-men for this server? Another discussion point. 5. Donator perks. I am uncomfortable with this one. Monoculus, HHH, and Merasmus will be VERY disruptive. I motion to bar all bosses from being spawned in this server. I'm sure you can understand why. These are my main areas of focus that I want to clarify. @Nomulous , What are your thoughts on the matters at hand, and how would you like us to enforce these points? =)

gg rip in pepperonis thread closing other people can ban her since apparently it is wrong to ban someone. @Hidingmaster

Kitty. I really don't want you to go; I know you want to. However, that does not mean that you have to spam this thread with pointless shit and make fun of others. There was an alternate path to dealing with what happened with FoRgE, Moosty, Kendrick (etc), which was to ignore them the whole way through. You brought it upon yourself. Please, stop spamming this thread and just let this be a normal goodbye thread rather than a darude - shitstorm.

Stop madness. Acquire #close. @DrLee @ThePenguin @Forest @Chrono

I would love an example where I have abused my responsibility as a mod to warrant a demotion, Did any of us abuse? No, were we still demoted? Yes. What baffles me is the only person who got demoted in the protest and got his powers back is StarmiX. Damn, I never knew that I should have been permed for calling you a bad mod and told you to stop bitching. most active, friendly and dedicated TF2 Div trade members So, being AFK 50% of the time is not really active. Putting up a member protest for 5 or so people who are all still more active then you, isn't really friendly. Lastly, you never really were "dedicated" at all. Where you ever on TeamSpeak? Even @CoolyCooly has more time on TeamSpeak. You're an idiot and how you are a CL baffles me. I smell a forum ban incoming... But in the end, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHrMkAsGFlE

I guess I'm a good person then. Hooray. Bye Kitty.

Another thing to consider @Nomulous ... Can we enable the Killstreak On command for this server? LOTS of folks like to view KS effects before buying. Makes them easier to sell. =D

>good little child >i'm older than him holy fucking shit, please kill yourself. as rabid said, no one likes you, no one ever liked you, every time i played with you back in CSS i cringed at the sound of your voice. the fact of the matter is that despite the numerous chances you got. Also, where the fuck did i say you made a DDOS threat? i wasn't there so i can't comment. i'm just glad you're gone. Also, i literally haven't seen you respond to any of my shit so where is this "i feel like everyone else including me lose a year of our life reading the ignorance of what comes to your thoughts" Literally every you say makes absolute no sense. You are at the bottom of the barrel. You are down there with the scum like tarin, foxxeh, darkwolf, towlie, dirty dan, and so on. So again, please kill yourself. thank you. - sincerely, everyone in xG with a brain.

get rid of jailbreak

I smell a storm a brewing, it might be for the best.

if you've been on any unusual trade server you would know that feeling. because if you do allow it, people will look for nothing but quicksells. I don't want to bring the bull shit of outpost quickbuys on the server.

I disagree with how you say that people are homosexuals if they say that they're buying quicksells, but I agree that it is annoying. However, it is still a form of trading. As long as they don't constantly spam the chat/mic with it I see no reason to have it against the rules.

This took a turn

WHEW! :D

-1 I disapprove of this thread

Wow... This is really a bunch of B.S. first off Kitty created a whole shit load of drama about being bullied, yet above she posted a fun song for StarmiX. Secondly really this is the reality of it. Kitty you are leaving cause you did not get Moderator back on TF2. Cause of #RageQuit. You will be missed but c'mon. That really just shows alot. ~Slinker with a opinion and not being Switzerland all neutral.

Then you wonder why you got demoted >_>

PROOF THAT IT WAS HERE

"I will still play the servers sometimes but I am not affiliating myself with xG." Pulled a Voly hu3hu3hu3hu3hu3hu3hu3hu3huh3uhu3huhu3h3

Knew this would happen... :/ Same goes for you, take care of yourself dude!

I have never seen you on but ok

Lol, what ever man, I never made a ddos threat statement or anything, plus I wasn't trolling anyone, we were on a totally separate ts server that is not owned by XG, You can make accusations all you want, if you want to ban me for something I never said , then go for it. I have no time to play kid games buddy. I have to keep up with grades, football, and my life. Bye guys, sadly this community is over ran by idiots. Peace out XenoGamers and stay real!

Lord Sir Beansack Alanden, Knight of the Kingdom of Friar Beanbean.

(since a few months) Server:Jailbreak #1 Bug What is your bug: Staff can't ban disconnected players anymore.

This is just my view based on person experience: I would let ONLY admins and above middleman. I think you should ban the term "Cancer" and just keep it at "Low Tier". Keep this place SERIOUS. I would not use the bosses, rtd, or anything that is not serious in nature. Most unusual servers, people come on to just sell or bargain. I would try to keep it as serious as possible. (Besides, we already have the other two trade servers which are not serious, lol.) I wouldn't ban quickselling; however, I would make it a rule that says you must state you are purchasing quicksells. We don't want someone to feel scammed because they were unaware that someone was doing this.

self-built machine, baby intel i5 3570k ivy bridge 64 bit processor geforce 465 gtx (older card from my last machine, but it still holds up well, I'll eventually upgrade it) gigabyte Z66-DS3H motherboard Rosewill mechanical keyboard w/ Cherry MX Blues (the clicky kind of keyboard) Windows 7 Professional 64bit i'm gonna make it a dual-boot hackintosh soon because I need it for developing iOS apps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8119XHDKTLk weaboo-friendly djent

"Lee's craptop." - Bleed :( I use an older acer laptop which I bought from a pawn shop some time ago. It works fairly well (as FPS goes), but built in-mic, along with the audio card, is pretty bad.

Some of the maps on the Jailbreak server are meant for mainly playing on CS:S which does not really transition well to TF2. There are not a lot of mini games on them meaning that usually it just ends up being trivia or just mass rebelling until the map switches. So being able to add new maps and remove those particular CS:S maps would be a good thing for the server in my opinion.

I wouldn't Know, ask chrono.

Mine is Mario Gonzalez (The most common Hispanic name ever) and @DrLee 's is Lee

Some maps are okay and its fine the way it is

imgur: the simple image sharer I can change color scheme/font/size (Sadly no Dmitri font :() Just tell me what you think about it! Yes, I understand that it's tiny

-1 3rd time trying to get into xG not old enough :/

So, I have a GRAND idea on how to populate the server... Alright... BRACE YOURSELF... I, but this is JUST me, not anyone else, BUT ME. I think we should demote EVERY moderator for C:SS and re pick. So like, that way, fun players, who make the game FUN wont be driven away by a shitty moderator. BUT WAIT, there's more! And by 'Fun Players' I mean people who are at least 14+. But you know, our servers are full of immature 12 year old's bitching and complaining about some person free killing them. And its not even that, its just the way you people act upon it. You say, "Ill perm you." when you have no reply. Don't you think that drives people away? And if you don't, you're obviously not fit to be moderator. Want me to point out ALL the mods who need their powers revoked? @Bonk (Immature 12 year old) @whitestar (Asked for mod, got it, immature) Phoenix (Not fit for mod) Lithium (Not fit for mod) @ForestFire (Not fit for mod) So basically all the mods who were promoted for the reason "Active". So maybe if you guys did this, the server would gang 10+ members who left because of these terrible mods. #Uprising #Revolution

Love the idea Forest

How about this