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So apparently staff doesn't know how warnings work on the servers based on recent incidents, so I'm going to go over how warnings should be issued. A normal warning: You tell the player through All Chat (which is just a single @ before your sentence in public chat) OR Voice what they are doing wrong. If the player does not acknowledge when using voice, give them another warning through All Chat, before punish them for their first punishment. Quoted from the staff manual: Warn, then slay/mute (sometimes optional), then kick, then ban [WSKB] Players should know why they were punished When you punish a player, make sure to let them know why they were punished so they can improve. Example: Person Y freekilled person X, you slay person Y and respawn person X. You need to tell person Y why they were slain. Something like "You were slain because you freekilled person X." works. How past warnings work: If you warn a player for something in the past and they do it, don't immediately jump to banning them. Depending on the amount of time it has been since their last warning for the incident, you may need to warn them again to remind them not to do it. 1 warning per week is good enough for someone who is repeating the same offense. If you feel the person has committed an offense too many times you can jump to a kick. Now keep in mind, you can skip warnings for certain things. An example of this would be: Hacking, micspamming music, exploiting, etc. Generally if you are unsure what to do about a situation, feel free to ask a fellow staff member. If you're still unsure, please look at the staff manual here: TF2 Staff Manual (Everything you need to know!) @Bello @Sesh @mrnutty12 @Rejects Feel free to add on to my post if you feel I left something out.

Something I did when I was bored over the last couple days. and progress sketches..

Apadiel is inspired/based on this for people that are asking/saying it has no relation to anything. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyLvu81U1IA

It's always a good idea to issue warnings through all chat above all else, some people keep mic chat off for a variety of reasons- this can range from anything to needing to keep their volume low, parents not wanting younger kids talking with strangers or hearing them, having company over, or simply just not wanting to hear people. They can't really be blamed for this because there's so many reasons people could want to keep things down or not hear others. Of course, as said, if they ignore you via text and keep up whatever it is and they don't respond to voice either then feel free to punish accordingly. At least, this is how I usually see things.

I've discussed with rejects quite extensively in the past about the issues, and he promised me issues like this won't happen again, and he knew he was on his last straw. We will discuss among the other higherups and make a decision asap.

Well, with past problems in mind such as: Editing your own weapon attributes, the bach situation, your attitude constantly getting worse with players, using /rof and killing random players, and once again deciding to change your own weapon attributes, I think a demotion may have to happen. There have been way too many incidents to look over this time, sorry rejects but it's really the only thing I can think to do.

Well he did say that's what he had assumed you kicked him for, but in his mind that is not wrong as most of the staff usually ignores the /colorme while in friendly. With that being said, we really should go over whether or not we should allow that, as it seems it's under confusion.

To clear up complaints, if we wanted to get rid of every "bad map" we had, we'd get rid of maps like Delphino airstrip, cyberpunk and Hotel Hell. Just because a map is bad in your eyes, does not mean others find it bad. As for Apadiel, I quite enjoyed the map which is why I had it added in the first place, one of the few maps that gives you something to do other than killing each other. If you don't like the platforming on it, I could make it easier by having @Bello or @Rejects have the map auto-set low gravity when the map starts up. Other than that, I do not want to remove the map because it's "bad" because honestly, there are worse maps on the rotation. -1

Yikes, that should not have happened! I will be waiting for a response from Rejects first before commenting any further, though!

As far as I know, there are no skins capable of adding things such as lazers without rendering a map-long lazer model in every time you fire or charge a shot. Which can cause technical issues if multiple people, let alone ONE person, uses it.

Division: Team Fortress 2 Staff Name: Rhetorical (Rejects) Staff's Identity: STEAM_0:0:64498855 Evidence: Abuse of weapon stats by adding "Allows you to see enemy health" to weapons. Screenshot: Recorded demo This stat obviously provides a substantial advantage when fighting enemies. Further Information: In the past, there have been several anonymous users suspecting this very same abuse of stats like faster revving up speed and firing speed on heavy, and this further confirms it. @Rejects @Bello @mrnutty12 @Vexx @Sesh @Aegean

Not sure why the map is even on the server. It's not video games, and it's awful. It's really frustrating with the platforming and snipers hanging around in both of their spawns, shooting at each other back in forth is really annoying. It's also not very pleasent to look at.

Last application was closed less than 30 days ago, please wait before re-applying. @Vexx

I might be misreading a thing here or there, but text warnings should always be given out alongside voice if people like to use the mic a lot. Some people keep voices off for one reason or another.

This brings up something ive noticed in this thread.I'm not saying anyones opinion is wrong, since this is an opinion based community poll, but I will say I see some people treating a map being gaming history related as reason enough for us to host it. And atleast in my opinion, a map being gaming related should be the bare minimum for consideration, not the standard requirement for getting through. A map can be gaming history related and still low quality.

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Im neutral on the case, and it's a day ban so not the biggest deal, but I will say it's always been my opinion that the responsibility for making sure warnings are heard falls on staff and only staff. You're a more trusted member for a reason and more is expected of you. Use voice and text chat both in most situations to be 100% sure. Some players will have voice off, some never read chat. It's just better/safer to cover your bases.

Thread is going to stay open, It is a community vote.

I'm a bit unsure myself to be honest, I've mostly just been waiting to see everyone's statements and even now I'm not sure what to say just yet. Apologies on that, guess I'll keep an eye on this and think it over a bit more.

I agree, lets get @Rejects side of the story before we sharpen the pitchforks.

I will say that the "It has a gaming history area" argument is a bit weaker with bsor than masscc and abstract. Both of those maps are well made and visually interesting/enjoyable to play in the non gaming areas. Bsor though is comparable with Hyrule for file size and doesn't fit anywhere close to the same level of map in the space. It has only the one section worth playing, the rest is just drab and poorly made open areas and stock textures. There is so much wasted space, and so much of the map percentage is low quality that it just seems like a step below the other maps on the server. As does apadiel obviously.

I mean I personally like the map sometimes so I think I'm going to -1 this based off that MassCC is actually pretty fun sometimes. Me and @Thunder got everyone on the server playing things like sharks and minnows and whatnot with the entire server. Of course it's not gaming history related but it's pretty fun when you can organize things

That one has a secret mario kart area and bsor has super mario 64. Not sure about the rest

Oh btw ignore Danmedic because im pretty sure thats blitzkrieg.

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Sv_pure is left off I would guess to give people a more customized experience. Could you give an example of any mods/skins that give an unfair advantage? I wasn't sure if there were any.

Going to stay neutral, I would've liked if you had actually spent the original 50 post count you were supposed to get on actually participating in the community. Instead you just spam bumped old membership applications when you could've just reported them or let a DM+ know in a private message. The way you went about getting your post count has left a not so good impression on me personally, so I will stay neutral to this application.

We need your Steam-ID.

Well, see the issue was due to the main power up that the team fighting against the boss gets, PlayPoints. See, certain bosses use a specific class, and say that person has a PP ability for that class, well, it makes it much harder. Bosses like Chuck Norris used the Heavy, which allowed players to use Hyper Heavy as him. You're talking about a global rage on life loss and a rage that gives him a weapon that one-shots most classes whilst being super fast. A lot of those bosses that were removed had an issue that allowed them to use the powers. Sandmen, Heavydile, Herobrine, Bowser, Shrek, Sanic, etc... Now a way we stopped that was to go into the boss' .cfg and change their class, which could cause issues with some bosses... Now that all PP powers are back, we have to re-take this into account again. Meaning if we re-add Sanic and Sandmen they will have either 520 or Homing Balls. So before re-adding them, they'll need to change their .cfg defined class again

As for the map list being over populated, people used to complain all the time that we didn't have enough maps. I personally think it's better to have more maps and not less, variety keeps things interesting. Anyone can nominate a map at any time, use nomination to your advantage if you want to play a certain map. As for broken maps, if you get me a list of maps that are legitimately broken to the point of it causing bad problems on the server, I will have those maps removed.

Was not a mistake. Has happened in the past every time he plays Heavy and he never uses rapid fire as his goto class when in godmode was generally sniper.

Minecraft will be worked on in 1 week! Thanks for the information :)

We would lose a lot of population if mods were not useable. We take care of Anyone who is hacking/using cheating mods...there is no need to change the server purity setting..

I'm only here to say... #Bringbacksewermedic kthxbai

This Friendly, active and mature. Why not? +1

Division: Minecraft Staff Name: useless fu cking dm pepper Staff's Identity: retard Evidence: he legit just bans me in teamspeak whenever someone asks him to, im not talking about when im in a blacklisted channel, just in general. Yes he does ban me for valid reasons BUT THAT WAS LITERALLY ONE TIME out of the 20 ish bans. Also why is he a DM? he has spent more time banning me on teamspeak for 0 reasons than working on the minecraft server, he has 0 experience and always says "oh new minecraft stuff will be coming out in a week!!!!11!" I don't need any evidence everyone sees him f u cking ban me all the time for his amusement

Why are you getting so aggravated? I think you should calm down. No need to be so rude. Also What are the other reasons though? I mean it seems to be stretching it And as others have said, the other maps have actual gaming areas. Comparing a small church to a large area is silly. Also idk how having some glaceons in a church makes it automatically gaming. How is that a reason it's not gaming history though? I'm sorry but they are still large areas you can get to on your own, and even then you can clearly seem them via spectate.