Forest
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As much as I hate to say it, hypocrisy does run rampant around the Servers. However, it is also something that is nearly impossible to mediate since it's most commonly associated with some sort of bias in the Player/Staff. It will always be present, but that does not mean we expect our Players to sit idly by while it happens. If our Players can actively make a difference by voicing their concerns in the form of a thread (case-in-point this thread), then everyone can grow and learn from it. Regardless of what anyone says, I still implore you that you voice anything and everything, as this is what is needed for positive growth, however frivolous or trivial it may seem to others. With that said, please keep in mind that our rules and guidelines were not put in place with the intention to oppress race, ethnicity, gender or anything of the sort. Xeno Gamers, as a community, strives to foster a healthy gaming environment that everyone can enjoy. This means trying our best to eliminate any sort of hate speech, derogatory language, or other content that may be offensive. While that may seem like an impossible task [given the amount of bias and hypocrisy] we still make it a point to demonstrate to our Players that we are trying. If you ever feel that Staff are stepping over-the-line in terms of breaking our own rules, then please do not hesitate to report them to a Higher-Up or post a 'Report Abuse' or 'Member Protest' thread with adequate and supporting evidence. Improvement starts when we take action on what the community wants; without that we won't go anywhere.
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denied PSA: New rule regarding sprays, avatars and customizable items
Forest replied to realBelloWaldi's topic in TF2 Discussion
Won't lie, I skimmed most of the posts here, but I'm just going to throw this out there: y'all are [probably] over-thinking this entire situation. Back before this was such a huge deal, we had one golden rule that blanketed everything and it was this (ye old fags will remember this one): if you wouldn't be caught dead viewing whatever it is you're looking at on the servers at a professional level (IE. at work, school, etc), then it most likely isn't PG13 and thus should not be permitted. Or to put this in an even more concise way, if you wouldn't want your teacher/professor/superior seeing you looking at it, odds are it is not PG13. That is literally the easiest way to go about it without throwing a wrench into the whole thing by asking what "nudity" is defined as (seriously?) or whether a spray is acceptable/unacceptable. With that said, come on people; go to a beach and then go to a 'nudist' beach if you need a clear definition of what constitutes nudity. As for everything else, use your common sense because for the thousandth time, it does not matter if it's a minor/animal/cartoon in a sexualized position, it's still a freaking 'something' that is emphasizing the whole sexualized aspect. Therefore, it is not allowed on our Servers and should thus be punished accordingly by the rules set-in-place. I mean for the love of God, it shouldn't be this difficult to determine what is PG13 and what isn't :coffee: -
Cheesus crust, there is a reason that our 'Spray' rule is so inexplicably vague; to prevent controversial or otherwise biased bans from taking place such as this. I'll re-iterate once more: if the spray is not PG13 in any shape or form, then abide by the rules and deal out the appropriate warning/kick/ban. Honestly, it doesn't matter if it's a child's cartoon depicting a sexual act, a dude banging an animal, a minor performing a sexual act in the form of a cartoon, who cares; if it's anything that should not be seen by anyone under the age of 13, then warn them to change it, kick them, ban them for a day, ban them for a week, ban them for a month, and then ban them permanently [for repeated offense]. Don't start dragging morals and ethics into the mix when we honestly [shouldn't or] don't give a flying f*ck what the Player's interests are [in regards to a spray]. As long as they abide by our rules on the Server then they can do whatever the hell they want. This means not enforcing or sanctioning your own beliefs and opinions on a Player, and worse, acting on it by dishing out an extended ban time. You cannot, and should not, use your position of power to emphasize your stance on a certain topic of debate, however controversial it may be. This is the reason why we do not condone nor allow political debate, religious debate, or anything in between on the Servers. If someone starts talking about it, warn them not to, gag/mute them if needed, kick, ban, whatever. By no means should Staff be jumping the gun based on how "serious" the topic is and dealing an extended ban time. If this really was justified as per the Higher-Ups, then I honestly do not condone this whatsoever and am worried of the direction we are currently taking towards the enforcement of rules. I won't say it's wrong as it is entirely up to their discretion, but I also do not agree with it in any shape or form.
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There is nothing wrong with owning up to your mistakes, in fact it's a far better alternative than lying to get out of a ban. With that said, you still did break the rules and a punishment is still in order regardless of whether or not you acknowledge your mistakes. For that, you already receive a lot more respect than you would if you were to lie about it. A day ban really is the 'minimum' for certain actions on the Server, so anything less would just be an unban, but a Ban Protest is never unjustified. For future reference, if you ever receive a ban of any kind [for over a day] and feel that it was unwarranted, please do not hesitate to submit a Ban Protest. Just know that the likelihood of getting out of a day ban is incredibly slim to begin with; there are only a handful of reasons that it could get pushed through, such as if it were a mistake made by Staff :coffee:
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Admin Handbook | Xeno Gamers This old thing? Also, continuing off of what Chrono said, regardless of what constitutes "child pornography", if it depicts any sort of graphic content (nudity, gore, anything not PG13) then it should not be permitted. With that said, Staff should not be making "exceptions" to this rule in regards to ban time based on their own personal beliefs/opinions.Simply put, if it isn't PG13, tell them to change it. End of story. As for the ban time, I agree 100% with Chrono; the user should not have been outright banned for 1 month, especially provided that the user does not have any bans prior. Literally all I want to clear up in this thread, y'all can discuss the hacking aspects of it, but by no means should anyone be issuing extended ban times based on their own beliefs/opinions.
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:waving: I could honestly go into super detail about this, but I would rather not. Xeno Gamers can almost be considered a new community since then, and mind you i'm not even that old (I was around near the tail-end of the transition in Xeno Gamers. As previously stated, this is completely up to Silence; the only reason (that I am aware of) we didn't want Duckii Jr around was to avoid any sort of legal action and to eliminate any chances of Xeno Gamers being affiliated with a life-threatening situation with him. With that said, seeing as how it completely revolved around the behaviour/attitude of the user I can honestly vouch that a change can most certainly take place, especially when comparing an age difference from 13 to 20. But whether or not that constitutes an unban is, again, entirely up to Silence. Either way, always a sight for sore eyes when an old-fag resurfaces; even given the some-what negative connotations. Glad to hear that you have made some changes and are no longer in that "dark place" friend :coffee:
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S'uh dude
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Is there really that much to discuss here? While screenshots can provide context, by no means should they alone be substantiated enough to warrant a permanent ban for hacking, especially when the screenshots aren't even that credible provided the following facts: It's common to camp a corner Audio cues from behind the wall Tendency for a Player to be behind said-wall Facing the direction that the user will be shooting I'm sorry, but screenshots of someone facing a wall when it just so happens that someone is behind it does not equate to a permanent ban for wall-hacking. With that said, while not relevant, the accused even has 1,811 hours recorded for TF2 on top of 382/520 achievements which is something to consider; anyone hacking could just as easily create a new Steam account and play TF2 as it is F2P without worrying about their main account facing any sort of ban/suspension. Now I'm not saying that the Moderator wrongly accused the Player, nor am I saying that the Player 100% did not hack. All I'm saying is that there just is not enough given here to warrant a permanent ban for hacking, which is why I'm going to +1 for an unban. TL;DR - Players should be treated as innocent until proven guilty; not the other way around. Evidence is not clear enough to warrant a permanent ban for hacking.
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Or this can remain buried in the deepest, darkest corners of Xeno Gamers, to never be seen by the light of day and to only traumatize those who actually took the time to read it during its reveal and conception. Lets be real here, they want to be unbanned; not scarred for life from a graphic fanfic (even though the poor saps have an option to review 'The Buttercream Gang'). Remember guys, we're a "PG13" community! as I am obliged to remind people :coffee:
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Is there any chance that the "Sticky Threads" and "Normal Threads" Headings could be formatted in a different way? It might just be me, but they appear to be too subtle to really notice or distinguish between one or the other. They sort of just blend into the background as they currently are. @Rhododendron
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For future reference: To submit a Ban Protest or other Form/Application: https://xenogamers.com/applications/ Alternatively, you can use the 'Shoutbox' on the main Forums (https://xenogamers.com/forums/) page for any other questions/concerns if you would like answers from the community :)
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And just for good measure, here is the user's ban appearing on their own Ban database.
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I believe you are at the wrong site @Titan.aim213 as we are Xeno Gamers, not to be confused with "XenoGamingCommunity" which is another community altogether :coffee: Just to be a bro, I have included the site which you can find by clicking here. @Aegean to request that this thread be closed as it is irrelevant to us and is therefore not applicable. (user appears to be a Member of their Steam Group as well)
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Post your go-to song that you just cannot stop listening to. I've been listening to this song since its release and I believe I have a problem. Send help. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3xcybdis1k Challenge: Infect as many people as you can with some contagious tunes
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Also feel like it shouldn't appear for anyone who has an identity linked to the TS3 Server; though I don't know if that's possible :coffee:
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If you feel that you are being targeted on our Servers or within our community please do not hesitate to contact a Higher-Up. Unfortunately, they cannot be monitoring everything 24/7 and rely heavily on the community to provide feedback and input. To put it simply, as a part of the community we all need to do our part in reporting any issues or situations to foster a healthy and friendly environment for our Players. We're the eyes and ears of the Higher-Ups, and without us it is virtually impossible for them to do their job. That being said, although it's unfortunate that it has come to this, I imagine your feedback is still greatly appreciated :coffee:
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Ehhhhhhhh.. Not going to spend time digging too deep into it, just going to throw in my 2-cents. Though first and foremost, this is based off of assumptions and is to be treated as a general response to any situation like this so, you know.. Please refrain from biting my head off, kthnx :coffee: I just want to toss a [very] relevant comment in here that I made in another thread (one that I can't be bothered to find) in that Staff positions should not be treated as some sort of welcome basket to those who have consistently stepped-down. While I'm sure many people may dish out the "we can just demote 'em" defense if things go awry, I'm simply appealing to the integrity of Xeno Gamers as a whole. However, this isn't to say that someone should not be welcomed back with an immediate promotion from Member to Administrator [for example] because, as others have previously mentioned, it is a case-by-case situation. If the user has demonstrated qualities that shine in that position, or if they do not have a bad-track record, then I see no reason not to give them that promotion. With that said, there are two sides to this coin: 1. There is little to no harm in promoting someone with a high turn-over rate who has an extraordinary track record, aside from having to assign powers once more. Because we run on a system of voluntary Staff, it doesn't [detrimentally] hurt us to allow someone to moderate for xG if we know they will do a stellar job, even if they consistently step down. While this may seem 'unfair' to those who are applying and are denied, keep in mind that Staff are measured by their qualities and work ethics (or at least should be; strongly recommend castrating any Higher-Up who is acting on bias) so it is to be expected that varying Staff will not be on the same level (eg. Someone who already has experience in the position will always receive [or be considered first for] the position before a new-hire). The only foreseeable problem area here is that if this trend continues, we'll see an influx in Staff who do not feel obligated to perform their duties and therefore feel free to step-down and then re-apply when it is most convenient for them if they are a model Staff Member. In other words, this may only be a problem depending on what the standards are for Staff here in terms of the short or long run. With the way we currently have things set up in terms of activity, we're set up to keep Staff in the long run, and so this should be considered before promoting someone from Member to Administrator (enacting a new policy that those applying from Member to a position that is greater than Moderator be monitored for X amount of days before promotion would also be beneficial). Activity [from at least one week prior to the submission of the application] is the gold-standard here at xG, so before promoting anyone into a position beyond Moderator, it really ought to be considered. 2. Arguably, and structurally less important, is the harm done to the integrity of our Staff. To promote anyone [who has consistently stepped down due to loss of interest, etc] from Member to anything greater than Moderator demonstrates that they don't really have to invest as much time as they can into moderating. And before an argument is made about this, consider that to say otherwise would mean to dismiss any previous notions that the user has stepped down for frivolous reasons that do not include their personal life in some shape or form. Personally and honestly, this would have a sway in my decision on whether someone deserves that position, or if they need to prove themselves by working for it from a Moderator position. Needless to say that all of this is subjective and varies from person to person. As always, take this with a grain of salt. TL;DR - Don't hand out promotions from Member to above-Moderator to those who consistently step down (due to lack of interest, etc) unless you want to make a change to how activity works. Otherwise, you're practically creating a new position for inactive Staff.
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First and foremost, are you hard-wired or do you use WiFi? Have you tried re-installing network drivers? Could also be that your network adapter might be shot. Additionally, have you already attempted to run the Windows diagnostic tool to see if it could determine the problem? If so, what are the results? Annnnd last but not least, open cmd and type in ipconfig/all and screenshot results. Kthnxbye
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Banned for having numbers in user name that aren't "420" or "360" :coffee:
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Welcome to Xeno Gamers' forums friend :coffee:
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I'll submit a support ticket for you. Will let you know how it goes 3 months from now :coffee:
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Give em' hell friend :coffee:
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Lets be honest, what could you possibly want from EA.
