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Good luck with whatever you're doing next man, I didn't really know you too well, but no news tends to be good news and you were pretty friendly whenever I saw you in-game.

Didn't you just come back what? Anyway take care man, I hardly know you, but we always need more poopposters when half the folks in this here gaming clan here get so angry, it adds some levity, so I personally hope you come back soon if at all.

"I know damn well I’m not the only one who feels like it’s just a bunch of friends gathering together to protect anyone in that circle and not caring about anyone outside of their groups input." Everything in that thread was organized by three people if we want to talk about friend groups. I don't think Krampus is in the right there, I think I've done my best to express that, and the fact that we're kind of friendly towards each other doesn't change that, but it's extremely hypocritical for certain individuals to suggest that "friend groups" are the cause of someone's opinions on the matter when it's that individual and their friend group that orchestrated the whole gig, even rightfully so. then there's displays of absolute genius like these "people are dog-piling their friends this isn't fair" k I don't really care who you are or what your stance on the precious-spray-matter is, all I ask is that people look at themselves for five bloody seconds before they claim that people are deciding issues based on whether an individual is in a friend group or not. Self examination and nuance is not a particularly difficult feat. The best part about those reactions is that there weren't even any negative ones until the thread was locked, which I was you know, going to point out (but locked thread xddd). If you want to make the case that there's some kind of cronyism or favoritism going on it's probably best to just give your friends a heads up to not instantly react positively to your thread, it makes the idea that you're being oppressed a whole lot more believable.

Okay okay okay, so just stay with me here, as I see it we've got three options if we're going to change the rules: 1. Realize that no matter what changes we make to the rules, there's always going to be some form of grey area if we allow any form of sexualized content, and because of this being inevitable, the current set of rules are fine, we've just encountered one of the unavoidable road-bumps, and therefore should deal with the issue but keep the current set of rules. 2. Try to change the current set of rules to no avail, hypothetically the best we could do is ban any form of nudity including nipples and butts in addition to what our current rules cover, but once again this doesn't really change anything in terms of having to deal with grey areas constantly. 3. Remove the ability to see sprays. Have to continue dealing with the same issues we're having with sprays with objectors because maybe you don't realize it but people will just fudgeing move to those lmao. I don't want to be rude but it does seem like people are hijacking a thread about an admin calling a bad shot to either try and make our rules on sprays more puritanical or remove them entirely. This is the whole reason we have an in-clan bureaucracy, to deal with the inevitable grey areas that will occur no matter what we do. I am slightly more biased because personally I'm not really put off by nudity or weird poop, but I think anyone rallying for a rule change should really examine whether changing the rules will eliminate the problems, or just change the context in which they eventually occur.

I mean there's plenty of things we have to go after time and time again even though rules are pretty clear, that's what moderators are for. The solution to "bodyblocking" for instance isn't to just give everyone no-collide or remove every instance of a teleporter within a map, even though it's a rule we constantly have to deal with enforcing. Besides which, I'm pretty sure "nothing explicit" is a pretty concrete one to maintain, although we could certainly go further and make a rule about anything even "questionable", it's just that our new rule as of January is incredibly vague for no real reason. Back when I was mod I didn't ever really even have to question whether sprays were allowed or not because the ruling on it as it was told to me was just not something subjective. Then we introduced "allowing bulges as long as you can't make out the genitalia" or whatever and it all went downhill.

So can we get a detailed rule clarification here and now? (Just like in general not necessarily from you or anything) Because "no explicit nudity" isn't really a great explanation and if I were just an outsider or new mod reading this I would end up interpreting it as "individuals in sprays can't not have clothes". If we're making a new line where do we draw it, or if not, are we just back to "if you don't show any part of genitalia or tiddy nipples you're good" ?

by second I should clarify "the second irl 3d woman" not the spider.

The editing on the first one isn't done particularly well enough imo, I think I can still see the lips through the blur, the second one should be fine though imo fair is fair. I was on surf when this was going down but sprays were not working for a while for me, (I couldn't even see my own for a bit) so I had no idea what the issue was I only heard about it secondhand. I can't actually tell what the fudge is going on in the spider one because it seems to be merely lineart, but if it is indeed an areola that should be a no-no from what I remember from my brief stint as mod, but idk it also looks like it could just reasonably be part of a larger stomach pattern.

pootis to mid is exactly why the gloves were banned in both american and eu leagues lul, what do you think happens when two heavies get to mid?

Valve comp has no rule sets idk what you mean, that's what makes it casual. There's like no standard enforced so people can run whatever team composition/weapons they want, regardless of whether it's broken or throwing. And comp is double scout, double soldier, demo and med traditionally because those classes are the fastest to mid and also having two of scout/soldier doesn't slow the game down to an unbearable point. Every other class limit is one, and you can run them about whenever, (that doesn't mean it's effective though).

valve comp is casual sixes

+1 bonfire for cl lmao

@BonfireCentiped what outrageous conduct

+1

Cyberpunk is an awful map. It's a cramped short hallway with a lot of clipping. There are two sniper towers watching this cramped hallway. Close to 65% of the total map area is unused because nobody leaves this singular hallway. Random spawns make it frustrating to change classes or be able to plan out where you're going to go after you spawn. There's some weird clipping on like bottles and there's a spot you can go to on the bottom of the map that doesn't instantly kill you, meaning you can troll as engineer by placing your teleporter a foot away inside the kill zone. There is music that has no cool-down. Additionally if you do manage to spawn in your actual spawn, at the back of each spawn is a teleport to the disco room that you can easily abuse your spawn protection with. All these problems, and also the fact that the newer cyberpunk is basically just the same idea but done better in almost every way are the reasons I give for wanting to remove this map. I'd like to hear anyone's thoughts.

It's fun to camp the tele exit as spy but the map sucks balls after being updated to have the underground lmao.

Yes, ideally this is how it just should be all the time. Autobalance is a fudgeing horrible disruptive system that punishes the members of a team who aren't huddling in a corner. If teams are unbalanced the round will just end that much faster and everyone will soon be able to enjoy the next more balanced round after teams are sorted between them. Also a couple of the maps I posted are custom halloween ones, idk if we want to have those on year round or whatever, but I tried to limit my maps to quality ones created by somewhat well-known creators who have already gotten some maps into the game regardless. I do think it's better if we try to keep ourselves from throwing any map that has an objective onto rotation. In addition to what I already posted, here's another: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=454812035&searchtext=logjam

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1238849347&searchtext= https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=674719999&searchtext= https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=731436616&searchtext= https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=454131968&searchtext= https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=454118349&searchtext= https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=782407483&searchtext=

He literally cannot communicate with other people in this situation, I don't know how him just being around without being able to talk over the mic or text chat with anyone would be "uncomfortable". And we really need to be careful what we claim we're doing what for, it's dangerous to be as vague as "oh well he needs to be banned because he's making people uncomfortable" because plenty of things could hypothetically make people uncomfortable. Plenty of things many people here do or are into for instance Whatever ultimately happens to Sucy should, one, make sense for his offense, two, actually solve the root problem of the offense, and three, ideally not be something that'll bite us in the ass later in any way. I would consider just banning server regulars for their interactions with their peers a bad idea, especially when their offenses aren't really related to in-game abuse of any kind, and they aren't specifically singling out individual players. I'm personally a little more inclined to not bring the ban hammer down full force on him because he just seems more like an idiot kid trying to be edgy to look cool in front of his generally more mature peers, as opposed to being a genuinely malicious actor, but you know, whatever, he's been warned before. But I'd still recommend that whatever decision is made affect his ability to negatively communicate with our other server regulars rather than just affect his ability to play on the servers completely, be it a three-month silence/perma silence + perma gag or whatever.

He honestly just seems to like confrontation. If you let him know he's getting under your skin you're giving him attention and that validates him because that's his goal. I honestly don't think we should even really ban him, he's just another body on the server most of the time. If we really want we should just silence him for longer and longer periods of time and if all he wants to come on to do is shit-talk he'll soon stop returning. Otherwise he's keeping the servers populated while unable to start shit or will learn to stop starting shit, which is the best of both worlds

-1 i like de airstrip the mario he make the fooni noise Mario-64-OOMPH.wav

Get the pro controller, a gamecube controller adapter thing, and a ethernet to usb switch thing. That's about all you probably need.

-1 bunker 2.0 must stay. No but really feel free to remove it, but I can't in good conscious vote to remove it when there's nothing mechanically wrong and it has better optimization than some other maps. Also people barely ever rtv to it so just having the option doesn't really hurt.