james8470 160 Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) I was looking though the guides, and I noticed a few things we might want to update, so I thought I'd pick them out and put them in a nice list. These are just suggestions, the purpose of this thread is to provide a convenient list of suggestions for the staff whom are able to edit the website in order to update our guides. I do not suggest rule changes/edits. I only point out inconsistencies between the rule lists which may be confusing staff and players (and me!). They are listed in same the order they appear on the guides list page. Hopefully, these potential guide edits will help clear up recent confusion about the rules people have displayed on the forums, as most of these suggestions have to inconsistencies between server rules guides. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= STAFF MEMBERS: @Bello @Aegean @Rhododendron @Bleed @Vexx @Sesh @mrnutty12 @virr @Amylicious @Lithium @Chrono @XHina_sanX @TheSupremePatriot @Vertex @WhoeverElseCanEditWebsite Please look into some of these suggestions to update the guides when you get a chance, thank you! Also, feel free to forcibly edit this post in order to remove suggestions and typos which you have just fixed/added/will not be adding. MEMBERS Please comment on this thread if you see something I missed on a guide, and I'll edit this post to add it to the suggestion list, thanks. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Legend =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ✎ Needs editing ✏ Note/Helpful Tip (found under ✎) :emoji_white_check_mark: Complete :emoji_grey_question: Almost Complete/Questionable :emoji_exclamation: Incomplete/outdated, needs edits =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Screenshot of the Month :emoji_white_check_mark: Xeno Gamers | Screenshot of the Month Winners | Xeno Gamers Looks good! ✎ Reminding @TheSupremePatriot to update the last 4 months worth of winners when he gets a chance TF2 Store Items for HUB :emoji_exclamation: TF2 Store Items for HUB | Xeno Gamers ✎ "Want to get your own title?An own title is 5 USD. Click here!" ✏ Please put a space between the two sentences. ✏ "An own title" seems a little strange, try "A custom title" ✎ Outdated information Evil Trail [1250 Credits] - Adds a particle effect to a player's back Evil Vision [1250 Credits] - Changes a player's view so everything is in 160°... Be a Robot [3500 Credits] - Play as a robot No Fall Damage [1250 Credits] - Disable falldamage for yourself. Noclip [250000 Credits] - Give yourself noclip . Abusing noclip will result in the item being taken away from you ✏ Evil Trail no longer works ✏ Others may not work (I've bought Be a Robot and No Fall, but they don't seem to do anything) ✏ Whats with the "..." after 160°? ✎ Broken link For more examples of trails, click here! ✏ There's no link on "here" TF2 Staff Manual :emoji_grey_question::emoji_white_check_mark: TF2 Staff Manual (Everything you need to know!) | Xeno Gamers I'm not going to comment on this one, it's not my place nor do I know how updated these are, but it looks well-written. TF2 Freak Fortress Rules :emoji_grey_question: TF2 Freak Fortress 2 Rules | Xeno Gamers Looks good! ✎ (See PkMn Trading Center Rules for inconsistencies) TF2 Surf Rules :emoji_exclamation: TF2 Surf Rules | Xeno Gamers ✎ Impersonation of staff members & no trolling is missing from the rule list ✎ (See PkMn Trading Center Rules for inconsistencies) Pokemon Trading Center Rules :emoji_exclamation: Pokemon Trading Center Rules | Xeno Gamers ✎ I noticed there are a couple rules which might be applicable to other server rules guides OR are strangely inconsistent across servers. Trolling is unallowed. (The definition of trolling is to the discretion of the moderator, and can include intentionally being annoying, antagonizing players, impersonation of staff members, spoiling the ending of games or movies, etc.) ✏ This is missing from FF2 rules ✏ This simply "looked down upon" in the Surf rules? Do we allow trolling or discourage it? Keep all trades to typed chat only, unless you are on a designated trade server. ✏ Shouldn't this be in all the server rule guides like FF2 and Surf where it's missing? ✏ Why is this rule in the rule-list for what is literally a designated trade server lol :ROFLMAO: But really, it's just confusing when listed on this guide. Scamming in any way, shape, or form is a heinous notion, and will be met as such within our servers. If you wish to report a scammer, please contact a staff member immediately. ✏ This rule is strangely missing from the Surf rules No Random Trading. Please have the common courtesy to work out a deal with someone in chat before sending a trade request. It will not be tolerated. ✏ This rule is strangely missing from the FF2 rules Staff members will be required to wear their appropriate tags at all times. ✏ Add: "or use server titles" ✏ This rule strangely missing from both FF2 rules and Surf rules ✎ The GENERAL RULES section is the only section ✏ Despite there being trade-server specific rules listed under it (like !friendly rules) that might warrant their own section, like in the PkMn Trading Center rules guide. Trade Gaming History Rules :emoji_white_check_mark: Trade Gaming History Rules | Xeno Gamers Looks good! TF2 General MOTD :emoji_white_check_mark: TF2 General MOTD | Xeno Gamers Looks good! Badges :emoji_white_check_mark: Badges | Xeno Gamers Looks good! [GiftR] - This user has provided the prize of an xG official giveaway, OR has given their prize to another xG member! ✏ So this applies to users who give away their raffle prizes? How is this checked, does the user who won the prize simply tell @Aegean that they gave it to an xG member? EDIT: yes. @virr, @Aegean or @Rhododendron Trading Servers Guide :emoji_white_check_mark: TF2 [xG] Trading Server Guide | Xeno Gamers Looks good! ✏ Is Slylux's edited Pokemon map missing from the PkMn map list? ✏ The Trading Servers Guide, Surf Servers Guide, Deathrun Server Guide, and Donation Information guides all incorrectly display !betheghost as a command available to super donators. !betheghost does not work in-game as super donator. Surf Server Guide :emoji_exclamation: TF2 [xG] Surf Server Guide | Xeno Gamers ✎ The images under "SERVER INFORMATION AND STATISTICS" are broken ✏ The Trading Servers Guide, Surf Servers Guide, Deathrun Server Guide, and Donation Information guides all incorrectly display !betheghost as a command available to super donators. !betheghost does not work in-game as super donator. Minecraft Server Rules :emoji_exclamation: Minecraft Server Rules | Xeno Gamers "1. Anything in the xG general rules applies." ✎ In other server rules guides, the general rules are often listed. Why not copy/past them into here as well? Just for easy reference. ✏ Don't forget that rules involving mic usage would have to be removed after pasting them in, as you cannot voice-chat in MC. "15. Using donator perks to gain advantage or persistently troll other users is not tolerated and will result in revocation of the perks WITHOUT refund." ✎ "Gain advantage" could easily include using /dis to become something like a bat, which has a small hitbox, and is difficult to see. Even though the disguise is busted in one hit, it's still somewhat of an advantage. Is this allowed? ✏ If not, maybe a few examples should be added to this rule, such as: "e.g: no disguising just before entering PvP" Deathrun Server Guide :emoji_grey_question: TF2 [xG] Deathrun Server Guide (WIP) | Xeno Gamers Looks good! ✏ The Trading Servers Guide, Surf Servers Guide, Deathrun Server Guide, and Donation Information guides all incorrectly display !betheghost as a command available to super donators. !betheghost does not work in-game as super donator. Forum Hub & Features Guide :emoji_exclamation: Xeno Gamers Forum Hub and Features Guide | Xeno Gamers ✎ The BADGES section needs to be updated ✏ Lacks new badges, uses a discontinued image for the "MoneyBagsMcgee" badge. Saxton Hale (Freak Fortress2) Server Guide :emoji_exclamation: TF2 [xG] Saxton Hale (Freak Fortress 2) Server Guide | Xeno Gamers (Page 1) ✎ The "BOSSES" section is outdated ✏ Many discontinued bosses are still listed ✏ New bosses such as James Bound, Buzz Lightyear, etc. are missing (Page 2) Death threats and the use of the phrase "Kill yourself", (AKA Encouraging Suicide) is strictly prohibited and will result in immediate punishment. ✎ This rule is listed here, yet not on any other rule guides. This guide isn't even a rule guide! (Page 3) ✎ "XENOGAMERS [xG]" remains unfilled to this day. What is it supposed to be about? Tag rules? Voting in Minecraft :emoji_white_check_mark: Voting in Minecraft | Xeno Gamers Looks good! Surf Code Index :emoji_grey_question: Surf Code Index | Xeno Gamers (Page 1) ✎ Spelling/Grammer Errors Surf Bilinear: They are the most rare surf maps. (Surf Arena + Surf Linear = Surf Bilinear) ✏ Please change "the most rare" to "rarest", it's confusing. ✏ Why not change "(Surf Arena + Surf Linear = Surf Bilinear)" to simply "A combination of Surf Arena & Surf Linear map types" (Page 2) ✎ Two images are broken on this page (Page 4) ✎ There's a section, "Types of Ramps", which has been "in progress" since April 2016. Maybe it should've been added by now after 15 months? Sponsorship and Reward Titles :emoji_white_check_mark: Sponsorship And The Reward Tiers | Xeno Gamers Looks good! Q: Isn't this like Patreon or Kickstarter, can't you think of something more clever? A: I truly believe that this system is very good, and we have been using it for our TF2 donator perks as well. tl;dr: No. ✏ Why is there a "Too long; didn't read" followed by "no" here? The Official Noob Guide :emoji_white_check_mark: The Official Noob Guide! | Xeno Gamers Looks Good! TF2 Deathrun Rules :emoji_grey_question: TF2 Deathrun Rules | Xeno Gamers Looks Good! Anything that is not in the MOTD is considered illegal unless an Admin says otherwise. ✏ So anything that is not listed in the MOTD (which is this very guide) is automatically illegal? So anything I do in-game is illegal unless an Admin (but not mods?) say otherwise? Maybe this could be rephrased to simply "Staff members have the final say in any situation"? TF2 Reglas Del Surf :emoji_white_check_mark: TF2 Reglas Del Surf | Xeno Gamers I can't read Spanish ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ How 2 Properly Use Capitalism (Tutorial To Credits) :emoji_white_check_mark: How 2 Properly Use Capitalism (Tutorial to Credits) | Xeno Gamers I love this guide Overhauled TF2 Jailbreak Rules :emoji_exclamation: Overhauled TF2 Jailbreak Rules | Xeno Gamers Staff members (DMs and DLs only) reserve the right to adjust the rules on the fly in case of new maps, new plugins, or new situations. Be aware. ✏ Should this be mentioned on other rule lists? Because this it the first I've seen of it. Although the common "staff have the final say" could encompass this, it might be good to mention elsewhere. ✎ The "Allowed Donator Perks" section is outdated ✏ New perks which could potentially be allowed such as !rainbowme are missing from the list ✏ Removed perks like !eviltrialme should be taken off the list Towny Guide :emoji_white_check_mark: Towny Guide | Xeno Gamers Looks good! Store items for HUB :emoji_white_check_mark: ✏ As there are HUBs in other devisions as well, it might be prudent to change this guide's name to "Store items for HUB (CS:GO" to prevent confusion. Store Items for Hub | Xeno Gamers ✎ Missing spaces ✏ There are missing spaces between the first "(" and the item's name, despite there normally being spaces between parentheses and the item name. Christmas Trees(2000 Credits) Flipsid4(1500 Credits) Luminosity(1500 Credits) GODSENT(1500 Credits) Hellraisers(1500 Credits) North(1500 Credits) ELeague(1500 Credits) Gambit(1500 Credits) Virtus.Pro (1500 Credits) Splyce(1500 Credits) G2(1500 Credits) Minecraft Server Updates:emoji_exclamation: Minecraft Server Updates | Xeno Gamers ✎ The server version is incorrectly displayed as 1.11.2, should be on 1.12 ✎ The change log should probably be updated whenever you have some spare time @Amylicious :emoji_arrow_right: On an unrelated note, I found some old webpages for xG which should probably be taken down OR edited to not display outdated information (it's no longer a factions/prison server). XenoGamers Minecraft | Minecraft Servers XenoGamers Factions Minecraft Server https://funminecraftservers.com/servers/5953 [xG] Prison | MobArena | Minigames Minecraft Server [PLAIN]Xeno Gamers Factions BungeeCord 1.8.x-1.12.x Minecraft Server[/PLAIN] How to Fix Mobile Errors :emoji_white_check_mark: How to Fix Mobile Errors | Xeno Gamers Looks good! TF2 Staff Commands List :emoji_grey_question: TF2 Staff Commands List | Xeno Gamers ✏ Not sure why're there are double "**" sometimes, and sometimes just one? Might want to fix that/indicate the difference between a single and a double star. General Server and Community Rules :emoji_exclamation: General Server and Community Rules | Xeno Gamers ✎ Inconsistent rules Do not bring up or make remarks to political stances, religions, leaders, nations, or touchy subjects. ✏ Many of these are not at all listed in other rule lists, but they really should be. Do not whine or suck up to admins. ✏ I don't remember seeing this one stated in any rule list before. Racism and sexism is frowned upon in our servers, using it excessively or in an insulting manner is not allowed at all. IF a mod or higher warn you to stop (by gagging, muting or simply messaging you) , you must stop. This is the first and only warning you get and it must be in this manner. If you do say something racist or sexist, it must be very minimal and not in an offensive way and if not stopped after a warning, you will be punished severely. The person these comments are directed to and any staff member can at any time state that these are offensive and you must stop immediately. ✏ According to other rule lists, racism (sexism is often not even listed) is not tolerated. Here it is 'frowned upon'? ✏ Huh, maybe mentioning that you are in fact allowed to say sexist/racist things that are very minimal and not offensive on other rule lists would be a good idea. I mean, what if someone says something racist/sexist, but it's satire? Seems like thats why this rule is explained in a full paragraph, but why not so on other rule lists? ✎ Outdated information If you are a staff member (mod, admin, etc) and you are on an xG server that you have powers in, you MUST wear your admin tags in your STEAM NAME, this is no exception, failure to follow this rule will lead to a demotion. [undercover admin is the exception, but if there is staff on with tags, or you have no reason to be undercover, you may get in trouble.] ✏ Please add "Or use server titles" How to add profile Music :emoji_white_check_mark: How To Add Profile Music | Xeno Gamers Looks good! Donation Information :emoji_exclamation: Donation Information (Read This Before Donating!) | Xeno Gamers ✎ There are a couple of new things which should be added ✏ The Trading Servers Guide, Surf Servers Guide, Deathrun Server Guide, and Donation Information guides all incorrectly display !betheghost as a command available to super donators. !betheghost does not work in-game as super donator. ✏ @Amylicious your new thread should become a guide of its own (Minecraft Donator Information | Xeno Gamers) and then listed under this section: MINECRAFT If you are a Minecraft player on our servers and want to support our servers, we will have custom hats, pets, tails and other perks just to show our appreciation! This will be announced at a later date! If you don't want it to be a guide, a link to your new thread should at least be posted here. Better Morbus Admin Handbook :emoji_white_check_mark: Better Morbus Admin Handbook | Xeno Gamers No idea, but it looks well written! Morbus MOTD :emoji_white_check_mark: Morbus MOTD | Xeno Gamers Looks good, as far as I know. TTT MOTD :emoji_exclamation: TTT MOTD | Xeno Gamers ✎ Inconsistent rules ✏ 9. Political or religious topics are allowed unless a moderator tells you to stop. However, topics relating political and religious stances are disallowed under the general rules guide (and maybe others). ✎ Spacing error, there is a missing space between "67th Way" and "Community Pool". 67th Way 1. You can block the cars 2. Breaking the tester is traitorous. Community Pool 1. Putting Props in the water undergound is against the rules. Terraria Server Rules :emoji_white_check_mark: Terraria server rules | Xeno Gamers ✎ This guide was for a one-time event last year, so it can probably be taken down now. Deleted Teamspeak Rules :emoji_exclamation: Teamspeak Rules | Xeno Gamers ✎ Community Channels can be found beneath the game specific channels. You can get your own personal channel by donating $25 here. ✏ The link for this takes you to the donation page, rather than the hub. Instead of purchasing credits, you'd be making a donation (as if you were going to buy a rank), you buy teamspeak channels via the hub using credits, which are also bought though the hub. ✎ The "COMMUNITY CHANNELS AND THEIR OWNERS" section is outdated ✏ Here's some screenshots of all current community channels for your connivence [spoiler=Screenshots] CS:GO Staff Manual :emoji_white_check_mark: CS:GO Staff Manual | Xeno Gamers Again, not my place to comment, and I wouldn't know if there's any outdated information or not anyways. Jailbreak Rules :emoji_white_check_mark: ✏ Now that there's a jailbreak in TF2 as well, it might be a good idea to rename this guide "Jailbreak Rules (CS:GO)" to prevent confusion. Jailbreak Rules | Xeno Gamers ✎ Rule suggestions Do not encourage other players to break the rules. ✏ It might be a good idea to add this one to other rule lists where it's missing, such as the general rules guide. How to Find Chatlogs :emoji_white_check_mark: How to Find Chatlogs | Xeno Gamers Looks good! RPG Surf Deahtmatch Rules :emoji_white_check_mark: RPG Surf Deathmatch Rules | Xeno Gamers ✏ The general rules section may be missing some rules, such as no pornographic sprays. EDIT: CS:GO doesnt have custom sprays. FF2 Weapons Abilities List :emoji_white_check_mark: FF2 Weapons Abilities List | Xeno Gamers ✎ It'd probably be better to just delete it. Especially since it would be better to add the FF2 plugin specific added attributes to an actual FF2 gamemode guide (like here), rather than making a separate one. Especially since it's a part of base FF2, and not an added plugin/setting. ✎ Missing information ✏ I know for a fact that there are a few weapons missing from this list, which probably should've been added by now, such as the short circuit, which stuns the boss. Deleted How to surf, Lay's way :emoji_white_check_mark: [PLAIN]How to surf, Lays's way <3 | Xeno Gamers[/PLAIN] ✎ This guide sucks ✏ The information here is so slim, literally just 'don't press W', that I don't see why an entire guide is dedicated to it in the first place ✏ The guide's information is oddly posted under the summary section ✏ Jokes are fine, but step 2 & 3 aren't even needed. I mean, the entire guide itself is a joke. EDIT: Deleted Guide Rules :emoji_white_check_mark: Guide Rules | Xeno Gamers ✎ This guide has no information, despite being posted 17 months ago. ✏ The entire guide: 1 GENERAL This guide will provide information on how to create a guide, and what rules to abide to in order for approval. Apparently it won't lol :ROFLMAO: EDIT: Deleted Edited September 6, 2017 by virr (see edit history) 1 1 2 2 1 ThunderLimes, realBelloWaldi, Aegean and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aegean 849 Posted August 2, 2017 Holy shit, I'll go through this in detail tomorrow when I wake up lol, I skimmed through it though and it's super helpful, thank you so much! 1 1 1 james8470, Thorax_ and Elcark reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virr 808 Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) Ill edit some of these in when i get back from work. @james8470 would you be ok with us editing this thread as we fix stuff? Edited August 2, 2017 by virr (see edit history) 1 Thorax_ reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amymaniac 42 Posted August 2, 2017 I will go over and update them later. 1 james8470 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thorax_ 539 Posted August 2, 2017 Holy shit, [2] 1 james8470 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thorax_ 539 Posted August 2, 2017 I will make these changes when I have time to do so. Thank you for the feedback! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bone 364 Posted August 2, 2017 FF2 Weapons Abilities List :emoji_exclamation: FF2 Weapons Abilities List | Xeno Gamers ✎ Missing information ✏ I know for a fact that there are a few weapons missing from this list, which probably should've been added by now, such as the short circuit, which stuns the boss. This is actually useless. This was the old weapon config I made that replaced Playpoints for a while. It's no longer on the server... for now... 1 james8470 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Segal 59 Posted August 2, 2017 Wow there are so many non-updated guides, Can't wait to see them updated! 1 james8470 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james8470 160 Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) Ill edit some of these in when i get back from work. @james8470 would you be ok with us editing this thread as we fix stuff? Of course! :p STAFF MEMBERS: @Bello @Aegean @Rhododendron @Bleed @Vexx @Sesh @mrnutty12 @virr @Amylicious @Lithium @Chrono @XHina_sanX @TheSupremePatriot @Vertex @WhoeverElseCanEditWebsite Please look into some of these suggestions to update the guides when you get a chance, thank you! Also, feel free to forcibly edit this post in order to remove suggestions and typos which you have just fixed/added/will not be adding. Edited August 2, 2017 by Guest (see edit history) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thorax_ 539 Posted August 2, 2017 Not sure why're there are double "**" sometimes, and sometimes just one? Might want to fix that/indicate the difference between a single and a double star. The asterisks are different colors, please use the key for reference. I will possibly look into changing the colors of the key to easily tell what is what. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tatost 604 Posted August 2, 2017 oh my, this is quite a bit. 1 1 james8470 and realBelloWaldi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
realBelloWaldi 1245 Posted August 3, 2017 I can't quote anything on the forums since I'm on my phone, however, the donator commands you mentioned should be working. I've seen robots on several servers last time I played. Additionally, the TF2 jailbreak MOTD is already huge and there's [or should be] a link to the general MOTD for TF2. I don't think we should make it even longer and keep it the way it is. 1 Thorax_ reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thorax_ 539 Posted August 3, 2017 Screenshot of the Month :emoji_white_check_mark: Xeno Gamers | Screenshot of the Month Winners | Xeno Gamers Looks good! ✎ Reminding @TheSupremePatriot to update the last 4 months worth of winners when he gets a chance 1 realBelloWaldi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james8470 160 Posted August 3, 2017 This is actually useless. This was the old weapon config I made that replaced Playpoints for a while. It's no longer on the server... for now... In that case, would you like me to make a note saying to delete the FF2 weapon-ability guide? Personally, I think we should keep it, just update it with the new weapons/remove old ones. I can't quote anything on the forums since I'm on my phone, however, the donator commands you mentioned should be working. I've seen robots on several servers last time I played. Additionally, the TF2 jailbreak MOTD is already huge and there's [or should be] a link to the general MOTD for TF2. I don't think we should make it even longer and keep it the way it is. Here's my notes: Overhauled TF2 Jailbreak Rules :emoji_exclamation: Overhauled TF2 Jailbreak Rules | Xeno Gamers Staff members (DMs and DLs only) reserve the right to adjust the rules on the fly in case of new maps, new plugins, or new situations. Be aware. ✏ Should this be mentioned on other rule lists? Because this it the first I've seen of it. Although the common "staff have the final say" could encompass this, it might be good to mention elsewhere. ✎ The "Allowed Donator Perks" section is outdated ✏ New perks which could potentially be allowed such as !rainbowme are missing from the list ✏ Removed perks like !eviltrialme should be taken off the list I don't see what the size of this guide has to do with my suggestions, they wouldn't lengthen it at all. I only pointed out a rule inconsistency and mentioned that the list of allowed donator perks is missing a few & has a few old, discontinued ones on it? As for the donator perks (I assume you mean the ones listed as purchasable on the in-game hub), I did test them, but it WAS like a month ago, so they could've easily been fixed (either that, or it's just me who they're broken for) I'll remove that note from the list when I get back. Screenshot of the Month :emoji_white_check_mark: Xeno Gamers | Screenshot of the Month Winners | Xeno Gamers Looks good! ✎ Reminding @TheSupremePatriot to update the last 4 months worth of winners when he gets a chance Added strikethrough text to the guide for this note, thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lithium 302 Posted August 3, 2017 Now that there's a jailbreak in TF2 as well, it might be a good idea to rename this guide "Jailbreak Rules (CS:GO)" to prevent confusion. There's already a tag next to guides specifying what game they're for; adding the name in the title would just be redundant. Rule suggestions Do not encourage other players to break the rules. ✏ It might be a good idea to add this one to other rule lists where it's missing, such as the general rules guide. I changed that to "Do not encourage other players to break the rules or attempt to trick them into doing so" and added it to the General Server and Community rules as well. 1 james8470 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
