14 minutes ago, Aegean said:@Elcark You raise fair points, I will just say not being accepted due to not meeting criteria, and getting kicked out after you're a member is hardly comparable. For me since I've been here from 2010, have only really agreed with or approved people getting kicked out for:
- Multiclanning
- Cheating
- DDoSing
- Threatening to DDoS
- Breaking rules on other servers intentionally (i.e. going on rival jailbreaks and mass freekilling)
- Starting a problem with everyone, never admitting they are wrong, and they provide 0 value to our community
As @Red doesn't into my criteria, I -1'd it for that reason. If the other higher-ups all disagreed with me, then I would allow them to take his membership away as I don't try to have final say in situations like this, but I try to give my input as much as I can. Silence (Rhododendron) and I have always wanted xG to be a community that people can grow in, I've made a ton of lifelong friends here and I'm sure many other people have as well, so I'm not triggerhappy with removing someone from member and I'm sure he would agree as well.
I don't personally think it's necessarily out of the question since tatost's situation wasn't nearly as bad as the things that you listed in my opinion, but I would personally say it's definitely worth membership removal since I would not like to have someone who is toxic, racist, a troll (i HATE trolls) and a bully representing the community on our own servers. I'm mostly indifferent towards membership revocation because of his reply to the thread as I've said though 
14 minutes ago, Aegean said:Edit: Onto the spinning point, I think @Jaydow sometimes turns his mouse sensitivity like crazy and spins in CS:GO, it might be someone else I don't remember but it has never been an issue on our servers, if red is just randomly spinning I would honestly not hold THAT against him of all things, especially if it's obvious he isn't spin botting (i.e. he's not killing people while he's spinning) Just on the safe side though, if @Red can not meme the staff so no one thinks he's cheating, that would be highly appreciated.
He comes onto the server on an alt account which gets rid of his cosmetics and friends, privates his profile, removes his name history all in an attempt to look like a hacker and then uses spinning scripts when he gets kills or such alternatively to just throwing your mouse across the room. I have had quite a few staff members come forward to me about this and some members too, and it's not really based off skill either. Red is a pretty good pubstomper like many other players we have, but his aim only looks shady when coated in all of these factors. It's all in an attempt to bait staff into thinking he's a hacker so he can turn around like "Lol got you staff your staff sucks"
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